Just a quick comment on tow vehicles.  I have a Montgonery 17 with the deep 
cast iron keel, a 21 foot pontoon boat and a Boston Whaler Harpoon 5.2 day 
sailer and I tow them with a 2006 Pontiac Torrent (same as the Chevy Equinox).  
The car has a 3.8L V6 engine (used in the 1/2 ton trucks) and a 5 speed 
automatic.  This combination works extremely well for the sailboats but towing 
the pontoon boat at 70 MPH in hilly country, I have to lock it out of the OD 
5th gear if there is any headwind.    My worst gas milage was 19 mpg towing the 
Montgomery against a 40 mph headwind.  With no headwind the towing milage is 
about 22mpg and normal highway travel without a trailer is about 25 to 26mpg.  
The drivaway price was about $7,000 less than a V6 RAV4, which will buy a lot 
of gas, and the extra room and comfort is nice.   In 2 1/2 years and 53,000 
miles, I have had only normal preventtive maintenance.  
 
My experience over 40 years and a dozen trailer boats has been that that when 
towing, a smaller engine may not get any better milage than a larger vehicle 
with a larger engine and it can be very frustrating to be downshifting on every 
hill and being passed by everything else on the road.   This is coming from a 
guy who towed a Balboa 20 coast to coast behind a 1973 4 cylinder Volvo Station 
wagon.  "For towing the Pontoon, I use my work truck, a Ford F250 Super duty. 
which gets 16 mpg on the highway whether the boat is behind or not.  I think it 
would do just fine to tow a Montgomery 23.  (Dream, dream).
 
Ron
M17 #14
Griselda.> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:44:32 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
[email protected]> Subject: M_Boats: New M-15> > Hello 
Chris,> > Congratulations on your new purchase. I am sure you will enjoy the 
M-15.> > Here are my two cents regarding your boat projects. As always these 
are> just my opinions based upon my usage -- single handed day sailing and> 
extended cruising on the Great Lakes.> > - Jib downhaul is essential in my 
mind. When the wind pipes up or when I> am coming in to dock it is a piece of 
cake to release the halyard and pull> on the downhaul to douse the jib. With 
the downhaul cleated, the jib will> sit sedately on the foredeck. On my boat, 
the downhaul is simply a block> mounted on the bow. I secure a small line to 
the top hank and run it> through the block on the bow and back to the aft.> - I 
have rigged the boat to have both halyards come back to the cockpit> but in 
practice I only bring the jib halyard back for the above reason. I> cleat the 
Main at the mast since it is there that I will need to be when I> either reef 
or douse the main.> - For sails, I have a loose footed main with a bolt rope 
and two reef> points (love the bolt rope and will not go back to slides), 160 
genoa, 130> working, and 60 storm jib. With this combination I can handle any 
wind> conditions that I encounter. I do go up to the bow to change the jibs 
and> so far this has not been too difficult. I have done this in 3-4 foot> 
swells. When I do this, I am always tethered to the boat.> - I too have a 
Honday 2 HP 4 Stroke. It works great. The 1/4 gallon> tank seems small but will 
push me along at about 4 - 4.5 knots for an hour> plus. Refilling underway is 
not that difficult. I have the long stroke> which is good for the Great Lakes 
and the wave height.> - For anchor and rode I simply keep them in a milk crate 
in the cockpit> and deploy from the cockpit. When set, I simply walk the rode 
up to the> bow. This works great. The only downside is that it adds weight at 
the> stern.> - I have mounted a Plastimo Iris 100 compass to my bottom 
hatchboard> which stays in when under way. For the handheld GPS I purchased a 
holder> that is mounted to the horizontal wooden plank that the mainsheet is 
mounted> to. This setup has worked well for me.> - Tow vehicle. I have a 2001 
Rav4 which works ok. It has the four> cylinder engine which, in my opinion, is 
underpowered. It struggles to keep> up to highway speeds on anything other than 
completely flat ground. When I> am towing I only get about 20 - 22 mpg. If I 
were to buy again, I would opt> for the six cylinder (not available when I 
purchased). Also, because the> tailgait swings out, the back in inaccessible 
when the trailer is attached.> > Hope this is helpful.> > Respectfully,> > John 
Hippe> M-15 Jester> _______________________________________________> 
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