Look at the MSOG site at the flushdeck M17 Amy.  It whows a masthead extension 
to place the top of the pabkstay further aft to clear his full batten main.  I 
have had a similar masthead extension fabricated for Griselda which also has a 
full batten main but she is not yet refurbished an in the water  to test it.
 
Ron
M17 #14 (Fin keel)
Griselda> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> 
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:51:31 -0400> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Boom> > Jim, 
(and Jerry and Bob Eeg..etc)> Today I was out and although my boom did not come 
in contact with the > backstay, I found that with the additional roach, that 
the leech would catch > on the highest batten. I can drop the main a tad to get 
it cleared, but > that's not the way that I want to tack everytime in slight 
breezes. When > the wind is up, the power of the wind pushes the main under the 
backstay, > but otherwise it gets hung up. I have the mast raked about 8" aft. 
If I > rake further to 12" as some have suggested, I think it will make my 
problem > worse. But perhaps my geometry is off.> But is sure was a nice day 
out today!!> Joe> Seafrog M-17 651> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James 
Poulakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > 
<[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:35 
PM> Subject: M_Boats: M17 Boom> > > Joe,> > You and Gary Hyde (and Bob Eeg) are 
correct. Properly rigged, the> main will not hit the backstay under normal 
sailing conditions. And> a properly adjusted boomvang will keep the boom from 
hitting the> backstay during a high jibe or knockdown. But with the current 
boom> length, if a boomvang isn’t rigged, or happens to be loose, then the> 
boom can hang up on the backstay under these circumstances.> > Yacht designer 
Ted Brewer said that ‘When it comes to their boats,> cruising sailors tend to 
be more conservative then an Anglican> Bishop’. Perhaps I am guilty of this, 
however:> > Spirit’s boom extrusion is 8’-1/2” long. With the gooseneck 
secured> at the proper height, the boom is about 2” too long to clear the> 
backstay when angled up.> > When I originally considered trimming 2” off the 
boom I checked to> see how long other M17 booms were. The boom on a newer M17 
was the> same length as mine (and the owner was considering modifications> 
before I brought up the issue). But the boom extrusion on an ’80s> M17 was 
7’10” - another 1/2” shorter then the 2" I calculated to be> necessary (an 
additional 1/2” safety factor perhaps?).> > No, I don’t expect that everyone 
will run out and take a hacksaw to> their booms after reading this posting. I 
just want my fellow M17> sailors to be aware of this possibility – especially 
if they sail in> areas with big winds and bumpy seas without a boomvang.> > 
Personally, I’m going to live with the boom as it is for now, because> cutting 
down the boom may make it slightly too short for the stock> mainsail. But, when 
the time comes for a new mainsail, I plan to> remove the gooseneck and trim 
2-1/2” off the boom extrusion. This is> actually cheaper and easier then 
installing a boomvang.> > Sincerely,> “Bishop Jim” Poulakis> M17 “Spirit”> > > 
> >Jim,> Can you lower your boom a tad? I had the same issue with my boom> 
hitting> the backstay until I lowered the gooseneck a couple of inches. I can> 
get> the mainsail at the top and made a cunningham to pull down the boom> and 
that> solved my problem. I'm sure that all depends on the length of your luff.> 
> Joe> > >Chris, Julie:> Jiffy reefing worked fine on my M15. I tried 
single-line reefing but> went back to 2-line reefing, with the Clew reef line 
lead forward> along the boom so I could handle the halyard and reef line both 
at> once. The tack reef could be done with a reef hook on the boom, or a> line 
thru it down to a cleat.> Regarding boom length and hitting backstay, of course 
the M15 doesn't> have a backstay, but on the M17 a boom vang prevents such 
interference.> > --Gary Hyde> 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'> We can't 
change the wind, but we can trim our sails.> Sailing is like "African Queening" 
thru life.> > > _______________________________________________> 
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