Mike Cater -
I have the Honda 2 HP, and mine would die when I throttled down
also. However, I adjusted the idle screw (NOT mixture), and now have an
engine that idles great. The screw is under the cowling in the rear of the
engine.
There is a tube exiting the carburetor downward, and a slot right
there. If you rotate the throttle, you will see the screw move in the slot.
Tightening it up will advance the idle. DON'T adjust the screw that doesn't
move with the throttle.
I was pretty unhappy with my motor until I figured this out.
Good luck!
Jon Freeman
Kent, WA
M-10
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:18:55 +0000 (GMT)
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Hello, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you who gave us
information about Freebird. We (Annemiek and I) have bought the boat. She is
a little tired but we will sort her out and get her shinning again. We live
on Roatan, Honduras. We delivered her around the island to our dock on a 30
odd mile trip on Sunday and she was a pleasure to sail. We havelots of
little jobs to do on her, but we will get there!
Thanks again for all of your input.
Kind regards
Ben
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:32:06 -0800
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Wishes that you will enjoy your new boat in good health Ben.
I am glad you contacted the list. I , much like others here I am
sure,
enjoyed the story and images about this rare and unusual M17.
I envy your warm weather coordinates as well......
Cheers, Tim Diebert
M17 PUFF.........Kelowna BC......where it is hard to convince a
Canadian
that global warming is a bad thing.....
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Hello, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you who gave us
information
about Freebird. We (Annemiek and I) have bought the boat. She is a
little
tired but we will sort her out and get her shinning again. We live
on
Roatan, Honduras. We delivered her around the island to our dock on
a 30 odd
mile trip on Sunday and she was a pleasure to sail. We havelots of
little
jobs to do on her, but we will get there!
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Ben
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I'm looking forward to hearing all about your adventure in "shinning
up" Freebird.? Please keep us informed as to your progress.? Good luck fair
winds
At your service
Larry Pegg
Pilgrim M-17 #55
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Hello, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you who gave us
information about
Freebird. We (Annemiek and I) have bought the boat. She is a little
tired but we
will sort her out and get her shinning again. We live on Roatan,
Honduras. We
delivered her around the island to our dock on a 30 odd mile trip on
Sunday and
she was a pleasure to sail. We havelots of little jobs to do on her,
but we will
get there!
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Kind regards
Ben
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:44 -0800 (PST)
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WELCOME to the list Ben and Annemiek,
I would be great to be able to view the progress you make shining up
this rare bird.
Please, if it's possible, adding images to your photopage as you
complete all the little jobs.
Fair Winds
Mark E
M17F/D
#103
AMY
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Hello, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you who gave us
information about Freebird. We (Annemiek and I) have bought the boat. She is
a little tired but we will sort her out and get her shinning again. We live
on Roatan, Honduras. We delivered her around the island to our dock on a 30
odd mile trip on Sunday and she was a pleasure to sail. We havelots of
little jobs to do on her, but we will get there!
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Ben
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:20:08 -0800 (PST)
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Myself, I am a big fan of STAINLESS STEEL pop rivets - the regular
aluminum ones are prone to failure due to oxidation - especially in salt
water.??Stainless is?a little harder to install (and drill out!) but very
tenacious.?Make sure you size the length of the rivet properly so that the
shank of the "nail" extends about 1/4" beyond the back side of?the boom
thickness. ?If you?are using?a cheap, lightweight rivet gun, you risk
breaking a handle, so be careful.
Blake Reimer
M-15 IOTA
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:19:38 -0500
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Another alternative is to use monel rivets. Monel is tops for marine
use.
Monel is probably the best metal that can be chosen for use in the
marine
industry. This alloy ranks fairly high on the Galvanic Scale and is
comprised of two-thirds nickel and one-third copper. It possesses
high
tensile strength (slightly less than 300 series stainless steels),
is very
ductile, and it is highly resistant to corrosion from atmospheric
and sea
water exposure. One of monel's best qualities is that it is most
corrosion
resistant in moving sea water. There are a variety of parts that are
comprised of monel for marine use such as annular-threaded nails,
screws,
nuts, bolts, props, prop shafts, even wire rope. Monel can pit if it
is
exposed to long-term stagnant salt water, but very, very rarely. One
indication that monel is beginning to corrode is when a
grayish-green patina
forms on the metal's surface. However, as stated before, it is a
rare
occasion to see corrosion develop on monel.
I use it for all my seizing wire applications as well.
Joe
Seafrog M-17
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Myself, I am a big fan of STAINLESS STEEL pop rivets - the regular
aluminum
ones are prone to failure due to oxidation - especially in salt
water.
Stainless is a little harder to install (and drill out!) but very
tenacious.
Make sure you size the length of the rivet properly so that the
shank of the
"nail" extends about 1/4" beyond the back side of the boom
thickness. If you
are using a cheap, lightweight rivet gun, you risk breaking a
handle, so be
careful.
Blake Reimer
M-15 IOTA
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:45:21 -0700
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Hello Group,
I have been lurking here for about a month, but decided it is time
to
introduce myself and dive in with an issue that has me a bit
perplexed.
BTW, I picked up my new 15 last weekend, and, if the weather
cooperates,
I'll be stepping the mast in my driveway for the first time on
Sunday. I
hope I can reconstruct Bob's instructions. If I can't, I now know
where to
turn for assistance. :-)
Before I get around to the rigging business this weekend, however, I
would
like to seek your advice on an issue with the motor I just
purchased. I
know the Honda 2 hp is widely used in the Montgomery community, so,
when I
saw one advertised recently in the Denver area, I jumped on it. It
had been
very lightly used, the price was right, and it seems to generally
run well.
Now for the complicating factor: I live at 8K+ feet in the Rockies
and will
usually be sailing at altitudes between 5 and 8,000 feet. I read in
the
owner's manual that engine power, even if properly modified, will
decrease
approximately 3.5% per thousand feet of altitude. I expected that
with a
conventionally-carbureted engine, but when I called a local boat
dealer that
services Hondas, the technician I spoke with was not exactly
encouraging
about the Honda's ability to idle properly at altitude, even with
the fuel
mixture leaned out a bit. I did start the engine again yesterday,
and while
it runs fine at higher rpms, I did have trouble keeping it going
when
throttled down to the point where the clutch disengaged.
So my question is..does anyone in the group sail at altitude and use
this
motor? Can you tell me what your experience has been and whether
you have
had to, and were successful in, adjusting the carb to achieve a
smooth(er)
idle. Did you feel you had lost a significant amount of power while
underway? Or, if you just want to weigh in with your thoughts, I
would
certainly welcome them as well.
Many thanks.
Mike Carter
M-15 "La Pequenita"
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