Thanks so much Frank. It means allot to start off with a clean slate. I was not accusing, just complaining that your announcement timing was bad. The rest I understand completely and commend you for thinking of the group. I have never used wget. It's a good tip for us all. I'll have to give it a try.
I have visited your site on a number of occasions: Although I'm not in favor of a cookie cutter stock design, I will say the site "works" extremely well; easy to use and follow - I like it allot. I noticed the Messing About section features Google ads, offers to build websites, hosting, etc. Will the Montgomery Owners site have those same banner ads and offers? And, does that generate enough revenue to cover the costs (as opposed to donations)? Just me thinking again? Bill On 11/19/08, Frank Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > Sorry for the misunderstanding, Bill. > > I don't believe I have violated any copyrights, and would not do so. In > my initial message, I made it clear that I wouldn't use anything without > the ORIGINAL copyright owner's permission. For photos, that is the > original picture taker, and for the text (captions), that would probably > be you (although several articles have a byline, and under the copyright > rules, while you would have first publisher rights, they can give > permission for their article to be republished elsewhere). The only > thing I have used is a single photo, with notice to the original > copyright holder. > > You had an invitation on your site for people to download the content > before you pulled the plug. Realizing that most people would view that > as a onerous task to download all the content, I did so using wget, and > have a complete copy of your site on disk. My intention was to be able > to provide it after you pulled the plug but, as you can probably > understand, I did have to grab it BEFORE the plug was pulled. > > I try to be very careful and respectful of other people's work. Anyone > who has been to my site realizes that it is neither a copy of, nor does > it use ANY content from your photo site. Feel free to take a look at it > yourself at http://montgomeryowners.com, and if there's anything there > you feel is infringing on your original work, please let me know (that > goes for anyone in the group). > > I apologize for upseting you, as that was certainly not my intention. > > Bill Lamica wrote: > > Frank, > > > > "I'm not sure you have to force everyone into a single Website solution." > > I do not think you have been getting E-mail from the MSOG. Let me set you > > straight on that Frank. The idea of combining the sites has been talked > > about and considered for some time on this E-mail Forum. Not my idea, nor > > something I would, or could, for that matter, force upon anyone. Since > the > > price we pay is well - free, I would be the last to consider ("fret > over") a > > free based Website as competition. Rather, it is better to consider what > is > > best for the Group. > > > > If you wanted to create a new site by copying my material, you should > have > > waited until I closed the site to make the announcement. At least waited > > until I had the opportunity to finish negotiations with Bob E. I do not > > consider your actions as competition - I consider it rude and you owe me > an > > apology... But, that's just my take on it. > > > > You have been given a good reference by some of the group: Here is hoping > > you build a great site of your own design and creation. Here's hoping > your > > site becomes a resource for the MSOG. > > > > Bill > > Photo Site > > > > P.s. If you care to discuss this further, contact me off list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/08, Frank Hagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Good news, Bill! I think a lot of people are breathing just a bit > >> easier tonight. Everyone hates to see content disappear. > >> > >> I'll continue working on my site, and see if I can create something > >> people enjoy. That's how "competition" ends up providing better choices > >> for the consumer, so its not something to really fret over. Some owners > >> are going to always like the maillist server, others will prefer the > >> WebBBS style forums at Trailer Sailor, and others will prefer the Yahoo > >> groups or the approach my website provides. I'm not sure you have to > >> force everyone into a single website solution. But that's just my take > >> on it. > >> > >> > >> Bill Lamica wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> We have a volunteer who has graciously paid the entire amount needed to > >> keep > >>> the Photo Site alive for the next 12 months. Never let it be said Bob > Eeg > >> is > >>> anything but caring and sharing. Thanks Bob! > >>> > >>> I think we went through this exercise once before when we were trying > to > >>> figure out how to make four sites fit into one. And, now the problem is > >> one > >>> larger with Franks new site. So, the problem is there and Bob bought us > a > >>> year to consider how, or if, it is possible to fix. > >>> > >>> I am only one of the people whose work would need to be copied and > >> replaced. > >>> I am only one of the websites that would need to be linked directly to > >> the > >>> new site. I cannot speak for those other people. So I guess they need > to > >> be > >>> asked, and certainly not on the list, that sort of negotiations are > >> private. > >>> That's not my job. Someone should be appointed. Are we collectively > that > >>> organized? > >>> > >>> Anyway thanks go out to Bob, I know it is appreciated by a whole lot of > >>> folks. > >>> > >>> Bill > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
