Hey guys,
 
Don't know if some of the other 23's were lead or not. A heavy duty magnet  
should tell you, though.
 
I agree with everything the guys have already written on this. First,  Bones 
and Dave are correct. If everything is intact on the 23 (like the 17 and  
15's) then no problem. I'd certainly leave it alone. The job that John, Theo,  
and 
myself did is totally do-able, but for me at least, it was NO fun. Second,  
John is correct that Lead is expensive!  I thought I was going to be  able to 
acquire "scrap" lead for next to nothing. In my case at least, that did  not 
happen. I ended up getting it from a cartridge company in Phoenix for about  
$1/lb but that was a few years ago. Then you have to ship it or go get it. If  
I'm not mistaken, when they opened up Theo's keel they found a combination of  
lead ingots and steel punchings. 
 
The one benefit I think I have obtained from replacing the steel with lead  
is that concentration of the weight is lower and more compact, and I used the  
extra room achieved to add some extra weight in there (after emailing back and 
 forth with Jerry M). I think Dauntless sails a little stiffer than some 
other  23's we've been around, although I'm sure we suffer a little from that 
in  
lighter breezes. We sit a little lower in the water. It sure comes in handy 
when  it blows. 
 
Not that it has anything to do with the ballast job, but I don't think I  
have ever sailed a trailerable boat in heavier type winds that I felt so  
comfortable on. She seems to love just diggin' her shoulder in an going. If we  
get 
overpowered she takes care of us while we get the sail plan changed and then  
we are off and running again. I have read similar accounts from Mark up in  
Oregon about he and Roberta pushing "Faith" through some pretty rough 
conditions  
up there.
 
Of course your question, Brian, leads me to wonder???  Have you  located one 
of the "missing 23's" ??? I hope so! (There's only about 5 left  that we don't 
know the whereabouts of) If you have I'd grab it!  There  was a run there for 
a while where they were turning up quite a bit, but things  have gotten 
pretty quiet on the "available 23" market lately! Fred an Lily's '02  is for 
sale 
though in Tucson and I believe it is not only all lead, but if I'm  not 
mistaken it has a stainless centerboard trunk and a bronze swing keel,  doesn't 
it??
 
Let us know what you found!
 
Sean
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