Yes Rick,

I want a symmetrical rudder and even helm.  It felt strange even asking 
about it.  But it is uncanny how it looks made like that.  One thought I had 
was the previous owner may have sanded and varnished the rudder that way 
removing any evidence of it warping on its own.  I had to ask.

Hope to meet many of you on the San Juan cruise in June
Jeff

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rik Sandberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: mylar sails


> Jeff,
>
> On the rudder: Don't know of and can't imagine a situation where an
> asymmetrical rudder would really give an advantage. I can tell you that
> once you get your rudder back to being symmetrical, it will straighten
> your uneven helm problem right out. Had the same thing on our M-15.
> Rudder was almost flat on one side. Steering was very obviously uneven.
> Got a new rudder from Bob .... what a difference.
>
> Rik
>
> Will Rogers often said, "There's nothing quite like money in the bank." He 
> went on to say, "I'm not so concerned about the return on my money as I am 
> about the return of my money."
>
>
>
> Chris and Jeff Packer wrote:
>> Does anyone have mylar sails?  My 170 genoa began to delaminate on the 
>> top panel this summer after it took a fairly good gust of wind.  The 
>> mylar film seperated from the cloth after the film gave way at a seam. 
>> The exposed sides are quite sticky.  The area is not that large and the 
>> rest of the sail looks good.  Anyone know if this can be fixed?  Someone 
>> mentioned the possibility of using an iron with some kind of tape at the 
>> seam.  Its a nice light air sail (1.9 oz material).  Any suggestions?
>>
>> Another rather odd question that borders on my own stupidity for even 
>> asking it... After launching my M23 this summer, I noticed the rudder 
>> pulled to one side quite hard while under power.  Upon closer inspection, 
>> I noticed the shape of the rudder below the water line is fairly flat on 
>> one side and very concave on the other.  I immediately concluded that the 
>> mahogany rudder had warped distorting the shape.  Upon showing a 
>> woodworker friend of mine he said to me: "It looks like it was made that 
>> way!"  I thought... no way, why would anyone make an unbalanced rudder. 
>> I have since looked at it again and it is a straight piece of mahogany 
>> above the waterline where it has not been faired.  Then it looks like it 
>> has been faired into an airplane wing (almost flat on one side, very 
>> concave on the other) below the waterline.  The boat was set up for 
>> racing, but it seems to me that any advantage you might gain from such a 
>> shape on one tack, would be totally negated on the other tack.  Hence I 
>> have had more weather helm on one tack and at times lee helm on the other 
>> tack.  So my stupid question is: Can anyone think of a valid reason that 
>> a rudder might have been built that way on purpose?  Or is it just a 
>> cleverly disguised warped rudder?  To get it symmetrical, I will have to 
>> do some serious planing losing inches off the trailing edge that will 
>> have to be built back up using epoxy and fiberglass.  Even if there is a 
>> reason for it... I'm quite certain that it is not for me.  Just curious 
>> about any thoughts/opinions.
>>
>> Jeff
>> M23
>> Clarity
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