Was trying to head off the impending disaster...

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, ibolmo (via Nabble) <
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> wrote:

>
> Why feed the troll? Just ignore the pest.
>
>
> nutron wrote:
> > Hi Ranty,
> >
> > I'm just curious. What, exactly, is the purpose of this post? If it's
> just
> > so you can blow off steam then, well, I suppose it's served its purpose.
> But
> > ranting at us because you don't like the free software we provide you...
> > actually, wait, you aren't complaining about MooTools itself, just how we
>
> > organize ourselves around it. Let me back up.
> >
> > But ranting about all the things we do BESIDES writing free code for you
> > isn't really all that helpful. We've enumerated at length the many
> reasons
> > we don't provide a forum on MooTools.net, not the least of which is we
> don't
> > want to maintain the software - we'd rather spend our time writing code
> and
> > fixing bugs.
> >
> > As for a plugin repository, it's something we're working on, but we don't
>
> > have a ton of resources and that work goes as fast as it can given that
> it's
> > all donated time.
> >
> > You say the documentation is sub-par but not exactly what you mean by
> that.
> > Are there details that you wish were present that are not? Is it the
> > presentation of that documentation you don't care for?
> >
> > The thing is, MooTools is an open source project. That means that if you
> > don't like it, you can roll up your sleeves and help out. Something
> missing
> > in the docs? Well, jump into git and add more detail and then send us a
> pull
> > request to pick up your changes. Or maybe create your own site and start
> > writing tutorials.
> >
> > Don't like these forums? Well, there are alternatives (and here I'm
> thinking
> > of http://mooforum.net/). But really forum software is forum software.
> If
> > you don't like the Google Groups interface, use nabble
> > (http://n2.nabble.com/MooTools-Users-f660466.html).
> >
> > But just ranting AT us instead of offering any sort of constructive input
>
> > isn't likely to get you anything except posts back here blowing you off
> > (which, I hope you'll see, this is not).
> >
> > If your company has written 10,000 lines of MooTools code then you no
> doubt
> > have some experts there. Why not give something back to this project
> except
> > complaints?
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > rantytheranter wrote:
> > >
> > > Mootools developers if you are reading this, thanks for your time on
> > > building a solid framework, but it was a bad idea to remove the forum,
> I
> > > don't care what your reasons were, and yes I read the entire page
> > > containing your reasons.  This part got me "feel free to switch to
> another
> > > framework that provides their users with an official bulletin-board
> like
> > > forum software", that was the jaw droppper.  Unfortunately my company
> has
> > > blessed your framework and I am not "free" to switch frameworks, nor is
> it
> > > feasible to convert over 10,000 lines of code to JQuery.  Which we
> already
> > > had to convert once do to your brilliant changes between 1.1 and 1.2.
>  I
> > > wonder what other version change nightmares you may have in store for
> our
> > > department.  Your documentation is sub-par, you have no plugin
> repository,
> > > and well I could go on.  I know you will say that posts like this are
> part
> > > of the reason why the forum was shut down in the first place, but I
> would
> > > have never posted this until I noticed that.
> > >
> > > In closing the organization of this project is a joke, and I stress
> just
> > > the organization.
> > >
> >
> >
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