Agree. We can detect if browser is Opera (or other unsupported browser) and hide the message, but I don't know if it is possible to detect Y! Toolbar presence using javascript.
On 15 окт, 03:44, Sanford Whiteman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Detecting if browser is able to do Gears is simple and reliable > > thanks to Google guys. If Gears plugin is missed a message with > > install instructions may be displayed. > > I hear ya. Though if the plug-in isn't installed, it won't be able to > be installed if you have Y! Toolbar. Or if Y! is added later, it will > make Gears inoperable. A pretty shaky situation, IMO, bending at least > my concept of progressive enhancement, as even "reference" browsers > like Opera are unable to use the technology even if the user would be > willing to add a plug-in (I wouldn't ever require a user to _remove_ > anything). > > To my mind, unless you keep progressive enhancement totally secret > from users -- impossible if you document or blog about advanced > features, when people use a range of browsers, or when users talk to > each other -- you're pushing people toward the "progressive" feature > set. If that means implying that Opera 9 or IE 8 are outright > deprecated just because they don't support a plug-in, that's pretty > ActiveX-y. > > Just my thoughts of the moment. Again, I very much like what you're > doing and will be following the project. > > -- Sandy
