Don't worry guys!
On Sep 26, 6:36 pm, Rolf -nl <[email protected]> wrote: > Jeez, what a shit-long post I wrote. Reading back I think most is > already discussed inside the dev team, because the issue must have > come up before ;) > I think moving -more finally to Forge with the option to download as a > bundle/set would be something to consider. The -more page could still > exist as is (or without some redundant stuff and maybe with some new > things) but essentially it's an aggregator of Forge stuff. > > Forge should also include slapping a "Moo Dev Approved" sticker on > plugins/addons that are created for -more or never were in -more but > are created by a Moo dev team member or are supported by (one of) the > Moo dev team. Approved add ons should follow the code style guide > (important imo) and the original devs (either with support of more dev > team members) should support upcoming mootools releases etc. > > /end rant #2 > > On Sep 26, 12:09 pm, Rolf -nl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think it depends quite a lot on the type of project you're working > > on that decides (for you) what kind of things you use. E.g. for an > > application/cms I see myself using Mask, HtmlTable, Lang, Date, URI > > (from Oskar's list) and other times I'm using Fx and Position type > > stuff. So.. you should probably ask 200 people first to make a top 10 > > list before you can really say what can and what can't be dropped > > imho. > > > It's up to the downloader as well either just clicking "select all" > > for -core and/or -more that starting working with Moo even if you have > > stuff you don't use. If it's too many kb's, someone eventually can or > > will come back and create a new download with only the stuff they need > > for that particular project. And if they don't, that's fine too, it's > > not like that is the responsibility of MooTools. > > > My idea of -more is/was that it should provide a set of extras on top > > of core that could be considered basic necessities to start building > > regular website of application like stuff instantly. (I think the > > MooScroller could fit into that category as plenty of people look for > > something like this "as soon as" they create overflowing divs with a > > scroller.) > > If you're looking for extra functionality, other ways of doing it, > > improved/enhanced versions, etc. you can checkout the Forge (which you > > should do anyway!). Maybe some Forge plugins could actually be moved > > into -more over time. E.g. something that has to do with storage or a > > smart Validator extension, or extras like Loop or simpleDelay, or... > > hmm this could turn into a problem! ;) > > > You can promote Forge more if you drop -more, move everything to the > > Forge and create a page where you can click like a set to download. > > Like "This is what More would have been" and then it would collect all > > plugins that were previously in -more. These could be marked with some > > "Original Moo Dev Team plugin" so you kinda know what to expect, which > > I think is good for newcomers and hell, everyone else too really. > > > As far as promoting the Forge and stuff on it would be a monthly blog > > post with a list of tested and highlighted plugins. Like David Walsh > > is doing every now and then, but focussing on Forge and what More Dev > > Team members consider interesting. These could be really simple string > > enhancing methods or some Class extension so it wouldn't take too much > > time, but I fully understand nobody really has time :) Maybe just a > > month blog post with 10 or less randomly selected added plugins from > > the last month (if there are more, just add a link to Forge). No > > review, just the names + short description entered by the uploader to > > get the word out. Good for newcomers, good for ppl not visiting Forge > > every week, good for other sites that pick up the blog. An editor > > could verify if some plugins aren't really suitable to add etc. this > > is trivial. > > > /end Forge rant > > > Hmm, I think leaving everything as is will be fine until 2012 ;) > > > On Sep 26, 9:54 am, אריה גלזר <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > you can always get statistics from the more builder.... > > > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Christoph Pojer > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > btw. just saying that the docs do not (just) reflect the usage but > > > > also the complexity of such plugins. So a more complex plugin might > > > > get more hits on the docs than a less complex one. > > > > -- > > > Arieh Glazer > > > אריה גלזר > > > 052-5348-561 > > > 5561
