JR
I think it would be possible to leave an
identifying "signature" on the linen and it would certainly be a deterrent but
it would also be possible to leave a mark of some sort on the actual
poster that would be even more of a safeguard. It is possible to do
this without visibly detracting from the poster. There are invisible
markers that are used in the fine art world that can only be viewed under a
special light. This could be an expensive process but probably worthwhile
for a high value poster. The way things are at the moment, you can never be 100%
certain of the history of a poster - if there are suspicions that it has been
stolen, there will always be the excuse that it is another copy, even when it
has been promoted as the "only known copy".
Of course, this would be still open to abuse but it
is certainly worth consideration.
Regards
John
JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld
4221 Australia WEBSITE: www.moviemem.com
eBay Userid: johnwr
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:24
PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] STOLEN POSTERS and
linenbackers
John,
I've been thinking about this a bit more... with a signature on the back
of the linen and a date and number, it would be possible to set up a website
that was a "registry of stolen posters" -- or incorporate it into an
existing information center like LAMP --and thus have a place where anyone
could check to see if a poster they are being offered (either for sale or for
re-linenbacking or whatever) has been reported stolen. Such a registry, in
conjunction with linenbackers marking their work, would render stolen movie
posters much less "marketable"... perhaps more recoverable by UPS / FEDEX
investigators.. and might encourage the thieves to offer them back to the
owner for a small reward or something, rather than risk trying to sell them on
the open market and be identified. It would definitely enhance the pedigree
and provenance of any valuable linenbacked poster had some identifying marks
placed on it by the linenbacker and if a potential buyer could easily
"double-check" to see that it is not appearing in any registry of stolen
items.
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004
23:35
Subject: Re: [MOPO] STOLEN POSTERS and
linenbackers
Hi JR
My first reaction to your suggestion was that
the process is fully reversable and it would be easy for anyone to reback a
poster removing any evidence of who originally backed the poster. However,
that would mean sending the poster to a competant restorer who may well be
aware that the poster had been stolen so, your idea has a great deal of
merit and would certainly make if more difficult for someone to dispose of a
stolen poster, particuarly of high value.
Regards
John
JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld
4221 Australia WEBSITE: www.moviemem.com
eBay Userid: johnwr
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004
1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] STOLEN POSTERS
and linenbackers
Reading Dominique's descriptions of her lost posters, one thing
struck me -- if the linenbackers who did the work on these posters had
inked some kind of a signature or stamp or seal of some kind to the back
of the linen, it would definitely aid in identifying these articles as
stolen at this point. This is something that did not occur to me when I
started advocating that linenbackers start putting an indelible "seal" of
some kind on the back of the posters they work on, but it is just one more
good reason why they should do so.
Heck, if it was just a signature with date and an arbitrary internal
number that the linenbacker had assigned to the job, it would be a
tremendous aid in identifying a stolen poster. And wouldn't the insurance
companies really like to have something like this when they list your
valuable posters on their insurance policy?
On very valuable posters, I would suggest their owners start
insisting that -- at the very least -- the linenbackers they use to mount
these items put a signature in ink on the back of the linen, with the date
the job was completed and some kind of "job number". This could be
invaluable for not only establishing pedigree and provenance for future
owners, but would help in theft-recovery and I would also think that it
would be a very desirable feature when it came to listing them with your
insurance company.
Why won't linenbackers do this simple thing?
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004
19:13
Subject: Re: [MOPO] STOLEN
POSTERS
Now THIS is what really impresses me about MOPO: this
sharing of knowledge in a time of crisis....
I have learned so much by reading these "Stolen Posters" postings.
I am so sorry this happened to you, Dominique. This does
indeed sound like a story worthy of release to the press. It would turn
up the heat in the individual UPS facilities, and perhaps curb these
awful thefts. Without intervention, it may only get worse.
(Particularly as ebay gets more popular and people look for this easy
way to get items to sell. They may feel that the internet is anonymous
and they won't get caught.)
Hoping that your posters are somehow recovered,
Diana
Tom Martin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
when
UPS or fed ex putsthe item in the system It is scanned in at
each HUB, and also the item was initially weighed,unless they
substitued the same weight , they should be able to find what city.
port, or Hub the package was COMPRIMISED in or at.
If the
driver delivered a sealed box to the final destination and no note was
made that it was opened or tampered with, then it would clearly be
internal Fraud If the customer didnt just state
that it was
a empty Box.
as for offering your story,here is a link to a list of news
agencys, If you have a friend familier
with PRESS release draft a
News worthy storie outlining the events , someone should pick it up
and run it.
http://www.highwayhome.com/media/newsbureaus/newsbureaus.html
also for a fee www.PRnewswire.com will send out the release to all
the media.
also find out the name of your couriers president or CEO and tell
them what happened with a phone call. You may have to make numerous
calls but someone will listen eventually..
and with some Luck
maybe the Posters will Re-appear if someone feels they may lose thier
job over it.
also make a wanted poster with the images and mail it
to all the prominant dealers in US or
make a webpage link with the
images so that if they surface someone will know when they are
offered. also send to the auction houses.
best To you in this sad
Time, and hope it has a happy ending.
best, Tom
DOMINIQUE BESSON wrote:
Hello from France,
Firstly, many many thanks to all of you who called
me or sent e-mails with kind words. The true story is worse,
my client did not receive an empty box, but a box containing toilet
paper rolls ... Of course, he received a "box", and not the
"tube" I had sent, and the accompanying customs invoice was
not with the airway bill. My client confirmed receipt of the "box",
and the toilet paper was American and not French, therefore the
exchange of toilet paper for posters was made "after" arrival in the
USA. Many of you asked me for a description of the posters
:All of them are linenbacked (except the
original gouache). Here's more description on each poster :
- Sabrina prior to linenbacking poster was folded
in near mint condition, no special other info
- Monte Carlo baby prior to linenbacking poster was folded
in near mint condition, some touch up along fold lines in the head
of the blue face of the man
- Funny face
prior to linenbacking poster was ROLLED in mint condition and came
from personnal Brini's archives
- Audrey
Hepburn's portrait From personnal Brini's archives, original gouache
artwork (painting) on strong paper
-
Breakfast at Tiffany's locandina prior to linenbacking poster was
folded in excellent condition - Blues censor stamp with red ink with
date (you can check JPEG)
- Breakfast at
Tiffany's 3 photobusta prior to linenbacking posters wer folded in
good condition with some pin holes at each corners
Some of you advised me to send e-mails to the press
agencies (CNN, Reuters, AFP, etc ...), to other carriers (FEDEX,
TNT, DHL, etc ...), to economic forum on the net for trying to put
pressure on UPS. What do you think about this ? Any other ideas ?
Any good addresses for posting my story ?
Sincerely
Dominique BESSON DOMINIQUE BESSON AFFICHES
Chemin de
la Loube
13650 Meyrargues
France
Phone :
33.442.634.944
Fax : 33.442.634.188
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