Just a bit of clarification (also in reply to JR's reply).
I will stick to posters first and then switch to the comic book comparison.
The poster point:
A vital point we have to consider is: FOR HOW LONG HAS POSTER COLLECTING GONE ON? Yes, there are pieces 60 or 70 years old, but WHEN did they hit the hands of a collector who either stored it properly or had it archivally framed? 60-70 year old pieces pieces have been in colectors hands for decades. The age of the piece has to be countered with when the piece was actually collected.
OK - now the comic book comparison, and please do understand I am not hyping comic books. But they share much with movie paper.First, well - they are made of paper. But the interior pages of the older books were of a much inferior quality than most poster paper, so even a modest study of comic book storage and consvervation can glean much that is applied to movie paper. And now the comic book fol-de-rol.
Please keep in mind in my previous post I was talking about comic books and did make an effort to point out newsprint: the cheapest of papers and paper acidic in manufacture. Even the worst poster paper is superior to newsprint (except, of course, for some of the heralds etc also printed on newsprint).
Now as regards this particular comic book collection, the owner, Edgar Church, happened to live in a part of Colorado that had good starting-point conditions for temperature and humidity. But all this collector DID was stack his comics in 6-8 foot piles. He probably had no idea of the impact of these piles. What happened was the weight of a tall stack of comics (and it IS heavy) compressed the books and prevented oxygen and airborne acids from penetrating the paper. That was all. No special vaccuum chambers or nitrogen gas environment. Just excellent storage conditions.
And I have to repeat (and thanks to those who made it this far):
The age of the piece has to be countered with when the piece was actually collected.
As always, may your collecting interests be fulfilled!
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I want to thank everyone who responded to my posting about reproductions, which I believe was spurred by someone else's. This is what makes MoPo worthwhile and even invaluable. Opinions were somewhat divided as to whether "mint" movie paper from 40 to 60 years ago exists. Some folks said they had paper this old that was "mint" -- specifically stating that not only did the items have no structural imperfections but that the paper had no yellowing whatsoever. One even said her 60 year old paper looked exactly as it did when it was made. At first, I was skeptical, but then read Michael Spampinato�s posting on storage conditions, and had to admit, I can see how it would be possible for paper that old to look in the same condition as it was when made. But doesn�t it seem odd that someone in the 1930s would have acquired a lobby card made at that time and then stored it for 40 to 6! 0 years � and not only just stored it, but done so in the way Michael describes � in a very spe!
cific way as to guarantee against any aging? And even if this was done, how often would it have been done? I think probably not very often. These cards were not really desirable at the time of their creation � and it would be a pretty prescient person who could foresee that they would be, 50 years down the road.
The bottom line for me was summed up by JR, who said that he has never seen 60 year old paper that did not somehow seem obviously �old� to him � and JR has been at this a lot longer than I have. For those who said that their old pieces are �mint� � do you really mean that your one-sheets and LC�s don�t even have tanning in the borders? This would mean that these pieces were stored for years in air-tight storage conditions, which I guess is possible, but ultimately, not a scenario that I believe happened frequently.
Barton
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