why does one have to be "active" to be a serious collector I have a couple of very narrow collecting fields outside of posters where if I am lucky enough to obtain one item a year I am VERY happy jim
------------------------------------ Unshredded Nostalgia Jim Episale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 323 south main st Route 9 Barnegat nj 08005 tel: 800 872 9990 www.unshreddednostalgia.com ------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Douglass Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:36 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there? JR wrote: > Andy, > > They don't have vast amounts of disposable income per person, not > compared to America and Europe. And that's the key to collecting > stuff, lots of disposable income that you don't have to use to live > on. I'm not saying there are no collectors in the 3rd world, but the > number must be very small compared to America and Europe (and places > like Australia and Japan). > > The actual sales we see taking place on eBay (sales, not listings that > don't sell), the various auctions and best-guesses for private > sellers, based on what they say in public, indicates to me that not > much more than 100,000 movie posters are sold on average per year. > Subtract at least 20,000 from that number for the occasional buyer who > usually purchases a poster for a new film (but likely doesn't keep it > more than a year or two before moving on to something else) and that > leaves 80,000 going into the hands of "collectors" (based on the 4 or > more per year definition). That would mean 20,000 "collectors" -- > except that a lot of collectors buy a *whole lot* more than 4 per > year. So, I have to conclude that the best guess would be a maximum of > 10,000 active collectors at any given time. > > If there were anything close to 100,000 active collectors out there, > we would see a whole lot more posters being sold. > > -- JR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Andy Neal <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2005 4:33 > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there? > > JR > > China, India and Europe are not 3rd world countries, they have Vasts > amounts > of wealth!!!!! > > World 6,446,131,400 > > China 1,306,313,812 > India 1,080,264,388 > European Union 456,953,258 > United States 295,734,134 > > So what you are saying doesn't really make sense and therefore I have > every > reason to have an opinion based on world population. > > As i said this is my opinion > > Thanks > Andy > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Reply-To: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there? > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:18:49 -0500 > > No way. The nearly 7 billion people live mostly in the impoverished 3rd > world -- they don't money to live on, much less spend on movie > posters. You > can't use the world population as a guide. The only practical approach > is to > go with the evaluations of long-time dealers -- they are the ones with the > best feel for the market. I'd guess somewhere between Bruce's 5,000 and an > upper estimate of 10,000 collectors are active at any given time (meaning > those who buy at least 4 posters a year). Of course, people drift in > and out > of collecting. I've drifted in and out 4 times in the past 40 years, > sometimes staying away for as long as 10 years. But I think if there were > more than 10,000 currently active buyers that we'd see a lot more > sales. At > 4 per year, that's a minimum 40,000 posters sold just to "collectors" -- > with the number probably closed to 60,000 - 80,000 a year (since 4 per > year > would be a minimum and many collectors do much more than that). Then there > are at least another 20,000 "contemporary" posters sold to casual > buyers who > just want to have a poster or two from their current favorite films to > display. So, that's 60,000 to 100,000 posters sold a year -- about what I > seem to see changing hands on eBay and other auctions, plus factoring in > some private selling. Of course, we have no real way of gauging how much > private selling is going on. > > -- JR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Neal > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:49 > Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there? > > > I think David is the warmest to the figures mentioned so far.... > > The World population is approx 6.4 Billion > > I would estimate at least 50,000+ serious and casual collectors. > > If I had to put a bet on it, I would say more like 100,000. You only > have to > look on ebay to see how many dealers and the number they are trading in - > Their feedback scores are a giveaway. > > I am certain there are many many collectors (serious and casual) that need > to come out of their shell, many won't like using mailing lists or forums, > or just may not know about them. > > I'm not claiming to know something that everyone else doesn't here, > this is > just my humble opinion and this is purely food for thought. > > I would be interested in seeing ebays stats on individual original movie > poster purchases. > > This is an interesting link on the CIA website regarding world > populations.... > > http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html > > > Thanks > Andy > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: David Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Subject: Re: [MOPO] How many poster collectors are there? > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:41:23 EST > > > > I'd say 10,000 at least. Probably more like 20,000, or even much more. > > Might as well ask how many licks it takes to get to the center of a > tootsie > roll tootsie pop. > > The world will never know. > > David Lieberman > CineMasterpieces.com > 602 309 0500 > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > <http://www.filmfan.com> > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > <http://www.filmfan.com> > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > <http://www.filmfan.com> > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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