Steve,
You are correct, film is subjective, and that is why you have
films like The Matrix making millions of dollars and, obviously, a establishing
huge fan base. Doesn't mean it will be a classic. The list that you quoted from
is, as you said, an internet poll. Remember, there are many people out there,
especially of the older generation, that either don't have a computer or can
barely navigate past email. I read somewhere that the average internet user is
in their 20's. Based on that I can understand the list. I get requests for
the Pulp Fiction one sheet all the time and it is usually from younger people. I
have many of my younger clients who have never even watched films like Gone With
the Wind, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Maltese Falcon, etc., etc. So, obviously,
they wouldn't be voting for one of those films if they have never even seen it.
The votes are based on their own film watching. Don't you find it interesting
that of the top 10 films on this list, almost all of them are from 1972 to now,
with the majority of those from the last 10 or so years. I guarantee you if you
polled the older members of this group the list would change dramatically. So,
again you are correct. Film is for everyone, but this list you presented
represents a very small fraction of film lovers.
Sue Heim
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:27
PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] TARANTINO
Well, I don't chime in often, but here's a good indicator of
the general internet film community - WOW! Look who's #9. Maybe
there are other people that actually like and consider Pulp to be a
classic. Oh, and it's got more votes than the #1 film by almost 10,000
votes.
1. |
9.1 |
The Godfather
(1972) |
147,825 |
2. |
9.0 |
The Shawshank Redemption
(1994) |
178,739 |
3. |
8.9 |
The Godfather: Part II
(1974) |
84,887 |
4. |
8.9 |
The Lord of the Rings: The
Return of the King (2003) |
132,831 |
5. |
8.8 |
Shichinin no samurai
(1954) |
39,340 |
6. |
8.8 |
Schindler's List
(1993) |
112,664 |
7. |
8.7 |
Casablanca (1942) |
76,020 |
8. |
8.7 |
Star Wars (1977) |
156,915 |
9. |
8.7 |
Pulp Fiction
(1994) |
157,514 |
10. |
8.7 |
Star Wars: Episode V - The
Empire Strikes Back (1980) |
122,502 |
Of course, Citizen Kane and
others will rate higher on most film critics' all-time lists, but film is for
everyone, not just the critics. And what most people don't realize -
here it is: the Absolute Truth of
Cinema: FILM IS
SUBJECTIVE. If you can't understand that no one is right and no
one is wrong about film, then you have no right discussing it. You can
DEBATE, but there are no absolutes apart from this fact.
Now on to my
opinions:
I personally think the Kill Bill films were genius - it
combined elements from the western, samurai, contemporary action, Kung-Fu, and
anime genres. People condemning this feat as a mere rip-off couldn't be
farther from the truth. This comes from a thorough examination of the
genres in question and a masterful application of such.
And it must be
obvious that Quentin's now-signature use of editing his timelines in a
non-linear fashion is another example of his mastery of the medium, and is now
often-imitated.
I personally look forward to every one of his new
films, and often will watch KB 1 and 2 back-to-back.
BTW, the Japanese
posters for Kill Bill, both parts, are absolutely incredible (some 14 styles
and counting)
Steve Zammar [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dsonesheets.com 303/478-3973
On 1/5/06, Susan
Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Thank you Craig.............
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Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject:
Re: [MOPO] TARANTINO
At 02:47 PM 1/5/06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: >And, I guarantee you, decades from now when we look back on
the greatest >films ever made, Pulp Fiction will be right up there
with Citizen Kane and >Casablanca.
Decades from now, I'll be
collecting on that guarantee.
Pulp Fiction may be Tarantino's best
but it isn't Citizen Kane. Or Casablanca. Or any of a
hundred pictures that will be remembered before Pulp
Fiction.
Craig.
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