Freeman

what you should really be talking about is why these posters will never be needed in that quantity for collectors.. The answer is very simple

THERE AREN'T THAT MANY COLLECTORS IN THE HOBBY

I've been chatting with Jon Warren, Bruce, Sean and some others and the general consensus is that there are at most a few thousand "real" collectors and not more. Though there may be a few thousand others that will happily buy the poster - and are not collectors.

One reason cited for the small audience of true collectors is that for some reason, the general public has not caught on to poster collecting. A constant issue when I had the gallery was that people seemed to think a poster that was more than $20 was foolish. This is because collecting has seemed to considerably lessen in younger generations and because movie posters were never available to the general public - especially when they were in the theatre.

When I was a kid, every other kid I knew - except most girls - collected something, be it baseball cards, comic books, hot wheels cars, coins, stamps etc. Today's kids are more interested in X-Box, PC's, i-Pod, $200 Nike's, and finally - a new Mustang.. so the kind of "collector mentality" that most of us over 40's had when we wanted to find something to do (yes we had a lot less to do than they do now. we even walked 40 miles in the snow to school .. LOL), so we all collected to occupy ourselves. These kids mostly have no time left after video games.

the Star Wars phenomena is a unique situation to the poster hobby, and one of the few areas that prices have not pushed down because of eBay. What other 1975-2000 films can you compare to Star Wars poster sales?

None the less, until posters become easily available to the general population, just like comic books - a hobby with more than 1000 times the collectors of movie posters - then there will just never be a huge exodus into poster collecting, and 20,000 posters of anything are just waste over a certain number. There is also another factor.. In comics, people collect by title mostly, so even though many issues of Spider-man are junk in my opinion, the fact that a Spider-man completist needs to buy each new issue & find the old ones, we have little in the poster hobby that equates to the same situation over a great number of collector's. In other words, while many people collect everything Star Wars - how many film series are there with more than 3-4 posters? So poster collecting - while having it's completists - has a completist with a much shallower list of wants. Spider-man is over 500 issues in it's own title. There will never be anything like that in movie posters, which is why many collect by genre.

Even more to the point, the movie poster hobby does $4,000,000 a year on ebay sans Bruce. Bruce does another $2mil. Heritage does another $2mil. How much more do you think all other poster sellers total to? I say about $20,000,000 total business per year. maybe a tad more.

the comic hobby does more than 3 times that in one five-day weekend in San Diego, and Metropolis comics does almost as much as eBay, Bruce & Heritage's movie poster sales totals in comic books every year.

so it doesn't matter if only 10,000 Pirates posters were printed.. That's more than will ever be needed

Rich==================


At 01:03 PM 7/10/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JR I am not or even suggested equating the number of runs dictate in some calculated or measured way the actual number printed.......the case I was making that it was a lot, a whole lot of posters required to be printed, the minimum run we know having to be in numbers enough to cover 7500 screens meaning an excess of 20 thousand posters. Extrapolating my observation further I was asking how can this title or the scores like it ever be a valuable collectible years down the road when introduced into the poster pipeline at these staggering quantities.

Scarcity is only one of about four considerations when a poster is assessed for its value.........my point was this poster and the scores like it from the final 3 STAR WARS on will never be scarce so getting back to Rudy Franchi's original declaration, we will be selling and reselling the same 500 posters for years to come-- posters that were printed in quantities a mere fraction of the totals being issued in the last ten years.

freeman fisher
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