The Hildebrandt artwork was used on the quad, which was withdrawn once Lucas saw and approved the character driven Chantrell art. Most were trashed, but some got out into the maketplace and now commands serious consideration.
 
The art was also used on the commercially licensed 1977 Factors Etc poster, one of which we sold on eBay in the last couple of weeks (a search will turn it up).
 
If I'm not mistaken, isn't that Spanish languge one sheet also printed in the US, Steve? We have a simlar advance Spanish language one sheet for the film, also printed in the US.
 
My understanding is that as well as designed for use in Spanish language territories as an international until local printings were done, they were also used in Spanish speaking areas of southern CA, Texas, and other border areas in the US where Spanish is the predominant language.
 
Same thing happened in Melbourne, Australia in 50s and 60s where both Greek dubbed and subtitled prints and Greek language posters for major American flms were used to satisfy the very large Greek community in Melbourne. Interesting to note that for some time (and perhaps still the case) that Melbourne's Greek population was the largest in the world outside Athens (Greece).
 
Phil
 
----- Original Message -----
From: JR
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] SHOW OF FEET -- Life is short...

Steve,
 
Actually, the Hildebrant artwork also appeared on the original 1977 British Quad style A... also on some "15th anniversary" 27x41 posters released in 1992 (but I am confused as to whether or not the 1992 posters were ever used for theatrical display... one of them even has "A NEW HOPE" logo in place of the normal "STAR WARS" logo... weird...). But it's true that the Hildebrandt artwork is much harder to find than the Jung, and I think $93 was a very good price indeed. I like the Hildebrandt artwork better than the Jung myself.
 
It should also be noted that LucasFilm used the Hildebrant artwork in 1977 on a promotional poster they were selling to retailers for over-the-counter sales (it was sized kind of like an insert, but a bit wider and not as long). I had a record shop in 1977 and ordered several boxes of them direct from LucasFilm and was selling them for $3 bucks each. Oddly, I have never seen one of these odd-size but very nice-looking posters offered on eBay... I wonder what happened to them all? I wish I had keep several boxes of 'em in storage. ..
 
-- JR

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:15
Subject: Re: [MOPO] SHOW OF FEET -- Life is short...

Since I was the one who bought it, can I confirm that this is the only original poster that had the Hildebrandt artwork on it?  I really enjoy the artwork on this poster vs. the Jung artwork.  Although the Jung is fairly classic, the Hildebrandt has something about it that I really like.  Can't wait to get his one linen-backed and on the wall.
 
Was this a good price?  It seems as though I got it for a good price. 
 
As to all the debate, I too was sucked in, thinking it a US onesheet, and when I do I generally just blow it off and try to ignore it - it's a selling tactic to get people to look at your auction, and though I may disagree with it, it happens all the time, and won't ever go away, so I just deal with it and go back to whatever else I was looking at, and not lose sleep over it, that's for sure.
 
By the way, eBay did already refund my listing fees, so it looks like I'll have to relist the item, darnit.  I do have a phone number for eBay that's been very handy lately, so I think I'll give 'em another call to see if I can light a fire under their butts to get my auction relisted.
 
Steve Zammar


On 8/14/06, JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ari,
 
I agree that "life is short..."  too short for me to have my time unecessarily wasted by being tricked into looking at versions of posters I am never going to buy. If I were French, I would collect French-langue posters, but I'm American and so I collect English-language versions. Is there something wrong with that?
 
All of you outraged Rick Ryan defenders... allow me to point out that Rick had this poster listed in the Posters > Originals-US > 1970-79 category exclusively, so how am I being arrogant and unreasonable in assuming it was a U.S. version?
 
I'm actually kind of shocked at you, Ari, for bringing in echoes of "American Imperialism" into this discussion... that's not what I'm talking about at all. If I had my way, sellers would ID country of origin in ALL of their Titles... they would specify US for American, UK for British, FR from French, SP for Spanish, AU for Australian, GE for German... etc. That used to be a fairly common convention used in Auction Title headlines on eBay, but od something which has faded away in recent years into the confusing, time-wasting chaos we have now. As you say, life is short.
 
And before someone tells me there isn't enough space in the headline field for country IDs.... hmmm... two lousy letters? Rick used an exclamation point and the word LOOK in his Title for this auction... he easily could have dropped the silly "LOOK!", used SP instead, and still had room for a couple of exclamation points. 
 
As for assuming "If its not mentioned as US, then it is not US." that's solves nothing, just reverses the confusion in the other direction, and would only make some sense IF the poster were NOT listed in this category:
 
Posters > Originals-US > 1970-79
 
 
... but this one WAS listed in US ORIGINALS... exclusively, no dual-categorizaton, as almost all of Ricks are... so please, people, don't tell me Rick isn't trying to be deceptive with his listing techniques these days.
 
But hey, I see he got 4 bids and $93 bucks for it and that's all that matters, right?
 
-- J R
 
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Howdy All,
Don't really get why, in a listing title, a seller must state if its not a (god almighty) American poster.
Most people in the world aren't American.
Most movies in the world aren't American.
And I'd hazard a guess....
Most posters in the world aren't American.

So perhaps we should assume.... If its not mentioned as US, then it is not US.

All for now,

Ari
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