I agree with you Bob. I don't understand why dealers put items on EBAY with
ridiculous prices that never sell. I see the same posters being re-listed
every month with no reduction in price. I guess after paying the same
listing fee for many months, if they lower the price, they will make very
little profit after the total listing fees. I could give you examples but I
don't know if they are members of MOPO.
"Robert D. Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not to justify this kind of rudeness, but I laughed heartily (and
quickly
closed my browser) when I looked at the listing myself and saw the $3,500
price-tag (and I do know a lot about pricing)... Why don't any poster
dealers out there realize that just because a poster sold for X amount in a
well-publicized/attended private auction by a major auction house - that
doesn't mean that the same poster is worth X on eBay??? Even the much rarer
style lenticular isn't a $3,500 poster...
Cheers,
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: clinton crews <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] He is back
He just wont stop running his mouth
LOL!!!
you must think yourself some maestro, coaching me on what
posters are,
huh???
the last time you listed a lenticular, it sold for $2200.
sounds like the
10 million Lamborghini Prototype I have in my
garage...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
"big boy poster club"...oh hell no, you just didnt say
that...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I will be sure to play with my $50 posters. actually wait...I
think I will
go play with my Lamborghini instead...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: clinton crews <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: [MOPO] He is back
This guy won't quit here is his newest email.
I know a good deal about posters to know you have
listed this piece of
shit a million times over and never succeeded in selling the damn thing even
when you actually listed it for $150.
sell it for around 2400-3000...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I say again, get off the crack.
none of the listings you pointed out even exist, so try
harder next time
when you are trying to justify your bullshit...jackass!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: clinton crews <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Some people
It is those type of people that drive me up the
wall they buy newer
posters. If you
try to sell anything for more then 50 dollars
then you must not know
posters.
And if this is one email I get I wonder what
Dave Liberman must deal
with
on the prices in his store.
I do not think I have ever used such profane
words in a email to a buyer
or seller.
----- Original Message -----
From: Duane <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'clinton crews' <mailto:[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: [MOPO] Some people
Some people have nothing better to do I
guess......
-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
clinton crews
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:30 PM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [MOPO] Some people
Replying to those who think Mr. Crews'
NBX Lenticular is over-priced,
I'd argue that the price realized at "a well-publicized/attended private
auction by a major auction house" is a much fairer indication (and still not
necessarily as high as true retail value) than whatever the same item may
get at eBay auction - which in most cases will be closer to the garage sale,
swap meet, or distress/liquidation price than to the retail or
insurance/replacement price.
There's nothing unique about the poster
trade in this regard, except
perhaps that the poster market - not to mention certain individuals who like
to pester sellers - may be somewhat less rational on average than, say, the
jewelry, antiques or fine art markets, mainly because it's smaller in scale.
Anyway, the fact that a diamond necklace is made available on eBay doesn't
obligate a seller to price it like paste (even though that might be
"realistic" way of getting a "fast turn").
If one of my consignors brought me an
NBX Lenticular at the time of
that high, widely noted auction, I would have advised him or her against
putting it up. Instead, I'd argue for retail sale at or near the high
auction price, possibly higher, while we waited for supply to dry up again
and for demand to revive. Over time, we might take other results into
account, and set a more "realistic" price somewhere between the high outlier
and dumpster-diver prices - many factors, especially the consignor's time
horizon, would have to be considered. Even now, it might be too early to
expect anything like the earlier result when you consider that, as often
occurs, the eye-popping auction was followed by (rather predictably)
unsuccessful follow-up auctions on the same title. It might literally take
years to re-produce the high sale - it might never happen at all - but
there'd also be nothing preventing us from entertaining offers or from going
the auction route whenever we decided to.
In the meantime, writing dealers or
other sellers and attacking them
for their prices reveals ignorance in addition to bad manners. If their
prices are unrealistic, they'll waste their listing fees and their time.
Otherwise, no one wants to look like a fool, or is going to get very far
asking truly outlandish prices on high profile items, but I don't think a
dealer can survive over the long term by flushing great items down an eBay
rat hole, and no dealer or auctioneer who depends on consignors can feel bad
about having a reputation for topping the market - as long as he or she also
has a real record of actually making sales.
More generally, if and when the shoe is
on the other foot, and you as a
collector or maybe your "heirs and assigns" are offering rather than
acquiring, they may feel very differently about what makes for a "fair"
price, whether on eBay or anywhere else.
Colin
CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com
<http://ckmac.com/>
Kymar's on eBay
<http://stores.ebay.com/Kymars-Stuff>
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