Yes, definitely gets better as times goes by and is best seen as SK intended,
unmatted 4.3.
That way all those weird converging angles in the awesome production design can
be fully appreciated.
Definitely a film for the mathematicians.....
And astonishing what he got out of Cruise and (especially) Kidman.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Ari Richards
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Speaking of Kubrick
After 2001, Eyes Wide shut is my favourite S.K film.
Ari
--- On Mon, 16/3/09, Roger Kim <roger...@iname.com> wrote:
From: Roger Kim <roger...@iname.com>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Speaking of Kubrick
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Received: Monday, 16 March, 2009, 2:56 PM
Oops. I forgot that Eyes Wide Shut was automatically assumed to be
Kubrick's worst film.
So, Barry Lyndon was NOT voted Kubrick's worst film. I feel better
now.
I personally think that Full Metal Jacket was his worst clunker.
-rk
On Mar 15, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
First off, for those of you not in my club, the question was "what
film directed by Stanley Kubrick (other than "Eyes Wide Shut"!) do you feel is
the WORST he ever made".
I eliminated EWS because I assumed it would win in a landslide! I
also eliminated the pre-Killer's Kiss movies because nobody (except Kirby and
Phil, maybe) has ever seen them.
So that only left the following (I have put the number of votes
each received):
Barry Lyndon (1975) 43
A Clockwork Orange (1971) 25
Full Metal Jacket (1987) 20
The Shining (1980) 16
Killer's Kiss (1955) 13
Spartacus (1960) 12
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 9
Lolita (1962) 6
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the
Bomb (1964) 4
Paths of Glory (1957) 3
The Killing 0
Now I personally didn't agree with Barry Lyndon "winning" but what
SHOULD have won instead?
Here were my comments:
I was personally not surprised that Barry Lyndon "won " this poll,
even though I personally thought it was quite an interesting movie. It clearly
is NOT for many people, and the pacing of the movie alternates between "on the
slow side" and "glacial"! But I was able to put that aside and get into the
sheer visual beauty of the cinematography, although I must admit I have not
seen it since it first came out, and don't really have a strong desire to see
it again.
I also was not surprised by the large number of votes placed
for A Clockwork Orange, given the repellant nature of the entire movie, and the
ultra-disturbing rape scene (and of course the repellant subject matter of
Lolita likely gave that otherwise fine movie the votes it received). I thought
that The Shining was very disappointing (I had read the book first and liked
it) and I liked the first half of Eyes Wide Shut, but did not care for the
rest. I had similar feelings about 2001, although I liked a greater percentage
of it. And of course, Spartacus was an epic, and kind of "bloated", but I am
surprised it received 12 votes.
I really don't see how people voted for Dr. Strangelove or
Paths of Glory. To me, both are masterpieces! I was glad that no one voted for
The Killing. That is really a wonderful movie (I can't say it is better than
The Asphalt Jungle, but it is its equal) and if you like film noir, or
suspenseful "perfect crime" movies, and you somehow haven't seen either or both
of these, do yourself a big favor and add them to your "must-see" list!
Of course I realize that many of you would have avoided those
movies of Kubrick's which you heard are not very good, so therefore you were
voting for the "worst" of the ones you HAVE seen, which may be entirely
different from his actual worst movies (and may account for some fine movies
getting some votes)!
I found it very interesting to read the comments left this
week, and I want everyone to go now to
http://www.emovieposter.com/club/club_comments.php to see what everyone had to
say on this subject (there were 78 comments left, and I urge you all to read
them). Remember that the goal in these polls is to stimulate conversation and
to help expose club members to great movies they have not seen before (or in
the case of this poll, to help them avoid ones they probably don't want to
see!), and I feel this week's poll certainly achieved both those goals!
Bruce
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Phil Edwards <p...@cinemarts.com>
wrote:
Kubrick loved to sign. I have a few stills that his PA at Hawk
Films got for me in the mid-70s as the bookshop I was working for (The Cinema
Bookshop in Great Russell Street, London) was where he got his film books.
She explained that few people asked him to sign because of his
reputation for NOT signing, but he was always extmely flattered when asked...
but NEVER on the set,
In fact, Kubrick, while a strong director and perfectionist, was
well-known as a warm and caring family man.
The PA also told me that he insisted on packing all his own
parcels, including mine.... because he didn't trust anyone else to do it. An
impeccable job, too which I have since slavishly followed. So when people ask
me who taught me to pack, I can say "well, it was Stanely Kubrick, actually."
Much misunderstood as a person and film maker, he left a
relatively small body of work, but everyone a meticulously crafted and
multi-faceted gem.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "McDaniel Kirby"
<ki...@movieart.net>
To: <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Speaking of Kubrick
That opinion is RIDICULOUS. In the sense of deserving and
inspiring ridicule.
BARRY LYNDON is a wonderful film. Deliberate doesn't always
mean slow. Gorgeous
it is, and there is no better self-evident example of the
moralism that Kubrick represented.
I first saw it on Christmas night, 1975 at the Wilshire Theater
in Dallas, Texas. The folks
from Warners had been there to tune their system to perfection
for the Dallas market.
Thanks to a generous friend of a member of this list, who
worked with Kubrick, I was
able to have him sign a one sheet for the film for me.
Kirby
www.movieart.net
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Roger Kim wrote:
I was just reading Bruce's latest club email, and I was
appalled to learn that Barry Lyndon was voted Kubrick's worst film. That is a
great movie!!! What is the world coming to??!!!
-rk
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