Good for you, Wim

I also looked at the examples given by Randy, and honestly, I don't feel I'm an 
expert yet.  In fact, I don't fully understand what I'm looking at.  How about 
other MOPOers?

Zeev

 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bqjansen 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Vintage Poster Authentication


  Thanks Randall. Now this is something I can actually use.


  Wim

  Op 29 sep 2009, om 07:25 heeft Randall Petersen het volgende geschreven:


    With regard to the current uproar about movie poster forgeries, I am 
surprised that there has been virtually no discussion of what to me is a very 
straightforward way for virtually anyone to personally evaluate a supposedly 
vintage poster or lobby card for authenticity.

    Although modern printing techniques have indeed become so good that 
forgeries can often fool the naked eye, the same is not true when viewed under 
a microscope.  Under even low power magnification, the differences between 
stone litho printing, offset printing, inkjet printing and other techniques 
become glaringly obvious, such that even an amateur (like myself) can discern 
them easily.  


    Here are a couple of examples (photomicrographs) of stone litho printing:

    
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/rkpetersen/poster%20analysis/DSCN4134.jpg

    
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/rkpetersen/poster%20analysis/DSCN4137.jpg

    Notice the variability in size and spacing of the individual 'greasy' marks 
created by the litho crayon. Stone litho printing is very distinctive under the 
scope.  


    Here's an example of photogelatin printing, used for vintage lobby cards 
from the 30's onward:

    
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/rkpetersen/poster%20analysis/DSCN6479.jpg

    This photo unfortunately doesn't show it overly well, but with photogelatin 
printing technique, under the scope you clearly see a pattern of fine 
reticulations, almost like a spider web or sponge, caused by the gelatin drying 
and cracking.


    Here are older and newer examples of color offset printing:

    
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/rkpetersen/poster%20analysis/DSCN4138.jpg

    
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/rkpetersen/poster%20analysis/DSCN6467.jpg

    Note that the ink dots of three different colors are evenly spaced, 
although offset from each other.  The dots vary in size depending on the amount 
of ink deposited.  Although there are many different forms of offset printing, 
the nuances of which I don't pretend to understand, as far as I know, all of 
them involve evenly space ink dots. 


    Here's an example of inkjet printing:

    
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/rkpetersen/poster%20analysis/DSCN6472.jpg

    Notice how each 'dot' is actually elongated into a smear, due to the rapid 
back and forth movement of the print head, which also results in a definite 
'grain' to the image.  Ralph DeLuca had an even better example of this on his 
website, from one of the fake Black Cat lobby cards. He posted the link here 
awhile ago although the image doesn't seem to be there anymore. 


    This is very easy stuff to learn, and all it requires is a small handheld 
scope, in the 50-100X range. You can get one with a built-in light off ebay for 
ten or twenty bucks.  With it, you can inspect a poster properly.  For example, 
under the scope, the printing on a forged lobby card (like that Black Cat) done 
on a high quality inkjet printer would look nothing like a lobby printed with 
photogelatin technique.  I have a Creature From The Black Lagoon lobby that is 
almost too mint to be real; I became suspicious of it for other reasons as 
well.  However, this card was clearly done with photogelatin technique.  So I 
consider it to be authentic, unless someone provides verifiable evidence to the 
contrary.   On the other hand, as Todd has mentioned, if all known authentic 
Dracula onesheets are stone lithos and yet the one Profiles in History is 
auctioning is color offset, I would consider that fairly damning evidence that 
this poster is not authentic (although perhaps not intentionally forged).  

    Certainly it wouldn't hurt for anyone who is at all concerned about the 
authenticity of their collection (or of potential future acquisitions) to 
obtain and learn to use a small hand microscope.  I've found it to be useful on 
many occasions. 

    Randy Petersen
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