lol.. I meant looking at.. LOL


At 07:59 PM 9/29/2009, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
What is involved when you "lak" an image?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art & Movie Posters <<mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>sa...@comic-art.com> wrote:
Randall

laking at the image is not all John Davis did. I spoke to Joe Madalena and John did chemical analysis of the paper of some kind and decided it was 1930's paper





At 07:34 PM 9/29/2009, Randall Petersen wrote:

> ...that is exactly what John Davis of Poster Mountain did do with the Dracula poster -- examine it under the microscope. And he what he saw lead him to believe it was genuine because it "looked like old printing consistent" with the 1930s.

Although I have the utmost respect for John Davis (and have used his services before), I believe that he made a few key incorrect assumptions with regard to evaluating that Dracula onesheet under the scope.

First, he probably assumed or believed that the original Dracula onesheets were offset printed, and did not know that they were stone litho (as we are told). Had he known otherwise, he would most assuredly not have given his stamp of approval to the poster in question. As mentioned and demonstrated by myself and others, offset and stone litho look nothing alike under magnification.

Second, he may have also assumed or believed that one can distinguish 'old' offset printing from 'new' offset printing. I am not sure that this is the case, especially with the ready availability of digital photographic effects. It may well be that crafty forgers could adequately duplicate the look of old color offset printing by tweaking a modern image.

However, as far as I know, it is not possible to duplicate other printing techniques such as stone litho and photogelatin on a microscopic level using modern printers. The thing is that all printing techniques create artifacts specific to the hardware used, if you look deep enough. As far as I know, the only way you could possibly create an absolutely convincing fake of a stone litho onesheet or a photogelatin lobby card would be to actually use those techniques to make it. Does anyone (S2, etc) actually use manual lithographic techniques for their reproductions? If they do, then yes, absolutely convincing fakes could be created.

I also have to disagree with the notion that experienced collectors and dealers somehow have a 'sixth sense' about movie paper, and can magically divine whether a particular piece is authentic or not simply by some nebulous combination of visual, manual, and olfactory inspection. Let's not forget how many very experienced people have been flim-flammed with these Universal horror pieces. And it seems to me that all this has come to light, not because of anyone's superhuman forgery detection skills, but rather because too many copies of the same things were appearing in the rarified world of high-end horror collectors. If the perpetrators had been less greedy, and spaced all this out over a much longer time period, I suspect this would have gone on for many more years, with all these expensive worthless forgeries hanging on the walls of the experts.

Randy


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