I think, after all these years of accusations, some maybe real, others not, of Shill bidding (by the way I do know of a mopo member who certainly PROTECTED his items in the past – dint think he does anymore) We become paranoid, I no nothing about this case, but would like to think we can get proof before accusing, or at least a history of coincidences. My favourite sale, was a 20,000 leagues under the sea daybill (reissue), my favourite, because it was one of my first sales, but also and mainly because the buyer became a friend. BUT he emailed me on the 1st day of auction, and said I have bid on your auction, $US1,000 max bid, so Im sure I will win, but I am going on holidays for a few weeks, hold onto it, when I win don’t worry Ill pay. Well he did, $30 or something. Knowing what he told me I could have put a fake bid in at $999 and laughed all the way to the bank. Was he stupid telling? Yes, was he lucky I didn’t screw him, well I guess yes. I never was going to, anyways he became a good friend (email and telephone), I lost touch, which is sad, but he is blind (Imagine a poster collector who is blind? But he at this time did have one eye), and I suspect maybe dead. Anyways, back to Shill bidding, we all know the history and names involved, accused, caught out, etc. End of the day, while I hate it (and wait till you bid on live auctions), I can’t see it will ever be resolved, bid what you want to pay. You lose? Ahh well, not the end of the world. Ari PS I must say again I am AGAINST shill bidding
________________________________ From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <sa...@comic-art.com> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thu, 15 April, 2010 12:40:43 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight Douglas How in the world can you possibly accuse me of having a shill bidder?? yes Samiam is a new bidder and yes for whatever reason he sat there and upped at least 1 other poster $2 at a time for some 45 minutes until he wore down the other bidder who was Thierry Brame on the Superman 2 poster. There are lots of new bidders every week on my site and guess what.. they all start out with zero feedback, just like you did way back when. Moreover, if there was going to be shill bidding, I think the Let it Be poster at $86 would have been a much better candidate for shill bidding why does the guy sit there bidding up the minimum increment for 45 minutes? who knows. But it wasn't me and it wasn't my secertary and it wasn't anyone else that I'm aware of. Furthermore, if my consignor (of the front part of the auction of which that was part of) was bidding or had someone else bidding, that would be the end of their consigning to me Doug that is a false claim and I'm really disappointed that you would say any such thing. Rich At 07:24 PM 4/14/2010, Douglas Ball wrote: I just got done with and auction on Mopobid tonight that is and will leave a sour taste and just might make me think twice in bidding on another auction in the near future on Rich's auctions. >Tonight I bid on "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" 40x60. At 8:18 tonight a buyer with >the ID of samiam101 (0) feedback with approx. 2mins left in the auction. I >came in again at 8:27 almost missing the auction. I was high at 105.01. From >that bid until 9:05, that bidder bid 27 bids @ $2.00 per bid w/ 3 or 2m left >in the extended auction until the bidder finally won it for $161.10. >Now I'M like just about anyone else who takes loosing with winning, but in >this case I believe it was not a bidder who never bid on any auctions in the >past, but a shill bidder. >Since you can not view auctions that have ended on Rich's site unless you bid >or follow, I'm just curious how many others had an experience tonight with >samiam 101 with (0) feedback! > >Doug > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >___________________________________________________________________ >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.