It's amazing what a short memory so many people have. I, too, have a beef
with Obama---but how quickly we forget the total and complete ineptitude of
our most embarrassing (and dangerous) President of all time, George W.
Bush. His widespread practice of deregulation is what caused this mess in the
first place.
Rick Ryan
In a message dated 6/15/2010 6:44:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
eccen...@mac.com writes:
I agree, Ted. Now, on to drilling in Virginia and let's get those whales,
shall we? Even Bush didn't do those heinous things! The past 2
administrations are proof that Harvard is going down hill. As an
environmentalist,
Obama is the most embarrassing President of my lifetime. IMO, a dangerous
hypocrite.
Andrea Kanter
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:12 AM, Brude wrote:
The only reason the idiot in the White House is bashing BP is to deflect
his abysmal response to the impending ecological disaster that could have
been kept in check.
As a concerned American environmentalist who is disgusted by the ineptness
of this administration, I believe Obama should be impeached for his
failure to "lead."
Ted
--- On Mon, 6/14/10, _jboh...@aol.com_ (mailto:jboh...@aol.com)
<_jboh...@aol.com_ (mailto:jboh...@aol.com) > wrote:
From: _jboh...@aol.com_ (mailto:jboh...@aol.com) <_jboh...@aol.com_
(mailto:jboh...@aol.com) >
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
To: _mop...@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU)
Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 1:32 PM
Kirby
from me it was all taken with a pinch of salt except the dense remark...I
don't consider anyone dense on this list.
And I do consider the spill a complete tragedy but there is a case for
half a dozen of one and six of the other here. The fact that the UK and Us are
partners in this bemuses me that there is any brit bashing going on...but
believe me we have teflon shoulders and you can throw a lot at us but it
doesn't always stick.
>From what I gather the Gulf shipping/boat industry is doing extremely well
while the fish industry maybe poor the boat owners are getting a better
living in the short term not doing the fishing.
In the end lets hope it's stopped asap.
Adrian
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirby McDaniel <_ki...@movieart.net_ (mailto:ki...@movieart.net) >
To: _jboh...@aol.com_ (mailto:jboh...@aol.com)
CC: _mop...@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU)
Sent: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:05
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
Adrian and MOPO,
I did not mean to insult anyone and especially any of our
British members by my posts. If any of this was taken by anyone as
anything other than a rather bemused allusion to the scene in
LAWRENCE let me correct the record here. Looking back on the thread, I
can see
how my comments to Adrian could be misinterpreted easily. I'm sorry
for any misunderstanding that this post may have caused.
Any serious thoughts I have about the spill,
which is not a joke and which is a huge tragedy for the Gulf Coast,
the area where I grew up, I would not choose
to air on MOPO at all, but especially in a way intended to inflame members
of the list or to create hard
feelings over a serious matter that is way off topic.
And yes, finally, I did misspell "blimey"!
Kirby
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:03 AM, _jboh...@aol.com_
(mip://1029e4b8/mc/compose?to=jboh...@aol.com) wrote:
Kirby, my acerbic little chum...your pun was noticed...it wasn't clever.
Dense? Well I am not wrapped in my coccoon of American clay and making
acidic remarks about a British company over a third owned by the US and I am
not a US politician trying to make mid term election aspersions and shift
the blame to anyone but good ol' Uncle Sam.
And as for BP being reckless...Mmmm Exxon comes to mind, oh and Viet Nam
and chasing after Weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq and now the futile
actions in Afghanistan...and the UK is reckless enough to follow where many
have not. (Yes we had a presence in Viet Nam allbeit unofficial).
The UK remembers it's debt and Special Relationship to all those men who
died on the Normandy beaches and we rise above the ridiculous comment by a
two bit politician who promised so much but will deliver so little.
Thankfully there are many in the US who have brains and understand the
predicament. After an American crew/company using the oil rig BP has stepped
up to the plate and will take on the job of repairing a mistake that wasn't
in their control.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <_sa...@comic-art.com_
(mip://1029e4b8/mc/compose?to=sa...@comic-art.com) >
To: _mop...@listserv.american.edu_
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Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:32
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
oh cmon Kirby, "your reckless oil company"?
what BP does has nothing to do with the British people
some 38% is owned by Americans
hey wait.... where did you get 27% the Kuwaitis??
38% US ownership & 45% UK ownership is in itself 83%
At 02:25 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote:
Adrian,
Your reckless little oil company is 27% owned by the Kuwaitis! I'm sure
Osama Bin Lube is at the bottom of it (no pun intended) somewhere or
another.
We may take your 12% dividends and build a soccer stadium with it.
K.
On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:17 PM, _jboh...@aol.com_
(mip://1029e4b8/mc/compose?to=jboh...@aol.com) wrote:
Thas More like it.
I gather the Pres has apologised to us for the Brit bashing as BP is
Anglo-American...Oil be coming round the mountain...
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From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <_sa...@comic-art.com_
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To: _mop...@listserv.american.edu_
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Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:15
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
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At 01:06 PM 6/13/2010, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
Quite right; we can always learn something from our former owners!
K.
On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:28 PM, _jboh...@aol.com_
(mip://1029e4b8/mc/compose?to=jboh...@aol.com) wrote:
Might I point out to our colonial cousins it is Blimey! Not Bligh Me.
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I agree David
Bridge on the River Kwai being a good example. No happy ending there
At 11:38 AM 6/12/2010, David Kusumoto wrote:
I have always felt that Bolt's screenplay in "Lawrence" is not just good,
but spectacular. There's a reason why it remains in the top ten lists of
the greatest films ever made. It is so far ahead of its time with its
ambiguous portrait of Lawrence that it feels timeless and undated. In fact,
the parts that linger on the visual majesty of the desert or the battle
scenes sometimes drags down the pacing. I've always felt (and I know there is
debate about this), that despite my love for Gregory Peck, who won Best
Actor that year, that Peter O'Toole's performance in Lawrence is simply
electric and drop-dead perfect. And what an ending! It disappoints many,
but
it is an anti-climax that is faithful to the integrity of where Lawrence's
story HAD to go. Can you imagine some corn-ball U.S.-tinkering happy
ending tacked on to make Lawrence's efforts uplifting and redemptive?
A generalization, but I think the Brits have a knack for making
wonderfully written films that - as I wrote last year - are masked when
they're
budgeted by American dollars and cast (e.g., Anthony Quinn, who was a major
star here in 1962) to draw an American audience. Astoundingly, the
country-of-origin and first printing of "Lawrence" is the U.S.A. like "Bridge
over
the River Kwai" (which was cast budgeted to include William Holden) -
despite being thoroughly British in tone and sensibility. Hence my obsession
with "country-of-origin" posters which I treat like first edition books
regardless of less than attractive art. I'm bitter that the beginning of
Carol
Reed's "The Third Man" was butchered by Selznick when it was released in
the U.S.; the British version is superior. But at least in the case of the
wonderfully written "Third Man" -- the country-of-origin is rightfully the
U.K.
____________________________________
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:57:20 -0500
From: _brucehershen...@gmail.com_
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Subject: Re: OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
To: _mop...@listserv.american.edu_
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I think Bolt started the screenplay for The Bounty, but had a stroke and
the eventual film contains little of his original writing.
I imagine the movie with a screenplay by the Bolt of the early 1960s, and
it would have been wonderful.
I first read the three novels by Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall
(Mutiny on the Bounty, Men Against the Sea, and Pitcairn's Island) as a
teen, and I know there is still a great series of movies (or an epic TV
mini-series) waiting to be made of the entire story (only parts of which were
addressed in the earlier versions).
Bruce
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Kirby McDaniel <_ki...@movieart.net_
(mip://1029e4b8/mc/compose?to=ki...@movieart.net) > wrote:
He also co-wrote the script for THE BOUNTY (1984), the mutiny on the HMS
Bounty story, which David Lean had always wantedto film, but was never able
to get financed.
This film takes a fuller look at the BOUNTY epic, and is enjoyable enough,
directed by Roger Donaldson. But one can only imagine that tale with the
Lean camera and editing synergy and perfectionist sensibility. Maybe the
financiers remembered all too well the MGM experience with the Brando
version. I have always liked that version.
LEAN went on to make A PASSAGE TO INDIA, a thoroughly wonderful film, in
my opinion. I think that'sout on BLU - RAY now.
K.
On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Robert Bolt, who wrote Lawrence, quickly followed with _Doctor Zhivago_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059113/) , _A Man for All Seasons_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374856/) (from his earlier play), and _Ryan's
Daughter_
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066319/) , a pretty amazing string of
wonderful screenplays.
Of course he didn't manage to include a tagline as great as "Get off my
lawn!" in any of them, but he did his best.
Bruce
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Phil Edwards <_p...@cinemarts.com_
(mip://1029e4b8/mc/compose?to=p...@cinemarts.com) > wrote:
Odd, we nearly always think of LAWRENCE in terms of its epic scope and
spectacular visuals, but it has one of the most literate andprecise
screenplays of almost any film I can think of.
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Subject: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
Tony Hayward: I am reminded of the wonderful line Claude Rains (Dryden)
gets in LAWRENCE:
_Prince Feisal_ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000027/) : You, I suspect,
are chief architect of this compromise. What do you think?
_Mr. Dryden_ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001647/) : Me, your Highness? On
the whole, I wish I'd stayed in Tunbridge Wells.
_http://www.theonion.com/articles/massive-flow-of-bullshit-continues-to-gush
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