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--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Phil Edwards <p...@cinemarts.com> wrote:

From: Phil Edwards <p...@cinemarts.com>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] age shall not weary them
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:13 PM




 




 
I'm 60 this year. Crikey!
phil
 

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  From: 
  Holiday Russell 
  
  To: Phil Edwards 
  Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:51 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: 
  [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market
  
Wish I was, but I'm 45
  

  Holiday
  

  

  
  On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:

  
    
    I'd like to poll just to see how many people 
    under 40 are on MOPO.
    Phil
    
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      From: Holiday Russell
      To: mop...@listserv.american.edu
      Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:31 
      AM
      Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: 
      [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market
      
I would think, though, that beautiful posters will always 
      be in demand.  Intuitively, there's a point at which the original 
      actor/actress may become unknown to new generations, but the art will 
      likely remain attractive to those generations.  And, there's the fact 
      that the posters themselves could bring around new generations to the 
      movies themselves.  I can't say how many times I've come to a great 
      movie because of the poster.
      

      Holiday
      

      

      
      On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:

      

        
        Over time, for 
          good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that will prop up 
          the price I think
        the problem with that statement is 
        the new collectors dont know stanwyck, lancaster, laughton, milland, 
        garfield, colbert.......................................so many awesome 
        posters that we seek to buy from the 40s, 50s may 
        lose out.    TMC might help avoid these stars 
        from "dying".
         
        i just bought a beautiful, powerful one sheet:  
        HIGH WALL, 1948 with robert taylor, audrey totter and herbert 
        marshall.  WANT TO POLL PEOPLE UNDER 40 who knows any of those 
        stars?  
         
        casablanca, mildred pierce, bogart, bette davis are 
        among those that will always be sought-after.
         
        michael


        


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From: Holiday Russell <hollyr...@mac.com>
To: mop...@listserv.american.edu
Sent: 
        Sun, Aug 1, 2010 9:01 pm
Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] 
        PUZZLE: flooding the market


        
        Yeah, I think that's how I feel too.  I couldn't do it. 
         Also, the market can absorb a lot of a good thing.  Again, 
        with first edition books, about 15 years ago, the first two books by a 
        popular writer were remaindered by a big remainder company.  About 
        300 of each hit the market at once.  The company limited sales of 
        two of each per buyer.  The books previously sold for about 200 
        each.  None were sold other than the remainders for a few years. 
         Then, while no one noticed, the prices were back to what they used 
        to be.
        

        Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and 
        that will prop up the price I think.  But, I do agree that the must 
        be let go over a few years.


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          From: James 
          Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:41:58 PM 
          EDT
To: mop...@listserv.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] 
          PUZZLE:  flooding the market
Reply-To: James Richard <jrl...@mediabearonline.com>


        
        
          Nah, destroying any old art/collectible that has 
          managed to survive into the current era is just flat out criminal. 
But 
          there's no reason not to do as many on this list have suggested: Keep 
          a couple for yourself and trickle out the rest very slowly into the 
          market. This is so obvious you'd think everyone would understand it 
-- 
          yet I see people on Ebay all the time listing 4 or 5 of the same item 
          at the same time and calling it "rare" in their descriptions. 

And then there's this 
          ever-popular Ebay ploy: An item that is reasonably scarce (but not 
          truly "rare") sells on Ebay for a decent price (usually because no 
one 
          has put one of those particular things up for a month or two). 
          Suddenly every seller in the world who has the same item immediately 
          lists it on Ebay within a few days of the first sale -- all of them 
          thinking they are also going to get the good price, when in fact all 
          they are doing is guaranteeing they will not. They think they will 
          pick up the second bidder who missed the first item by only a buck or 
          two? Not if that second bidder suddenly sees 4 or 5 of the same item 
          turn up right after he lost the first auction. What he's going to do 
          instead is wipe his brow and say "Whew... lucky I got outbid on that 
          first auction... I almost paid way too much for one of 
          those."

-- JR

Holiday Russell wrote:
          
            How about keeping a few and destroying the rest?  I've 
            known first edition book dealers that have done this.  
            

            Holiday


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              From: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: August 1, 2010 8:14:26 PM 
              EDT
To: mop...@listserv.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 
              PUZZLE:  flooding the market
Reply-To: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>


            
              Hi, I think the point is that, wrong or not, (as Wolfgang 
              confirmed), this has happened, in the case of the Peeping Tom 
              quads at least.
              I really don't know exactly what happened with The Outlaw 6 
              sheet(s).
              I'm not advocating it, just pointing out that it 
              happens.
              

              
              On 2 Aug 2010, at 01:04, Ken Farrell wrote:

              
                Hi, 
                I just thought that I would chime on this one...

I think 
                the point is being missed...If all of a sudden you have 75 
                copies of a rare item, the value is automatically changed by 
the 
                laws of supply and demand. Anything you do to control this is 
                some sort of insider trading. If you lie to numerous people, 
you 
                are protecting your own interests at the expense of others. 
What 
                if you auction one copy and get the record setting price? All 
                the bidders will feel cheated when the next 74 come up for 
sale. 
                You would feel the same. 

The deflated 
                value is a reality...these posters should be sold at an 
                estimated new, readjusted value and all will work out. You just 
                won't become rich. 

Also, once a 
                number of these posters show up, try to convince the market 
that 
                there are only 75 in the find. The gossip will fly (75 or 750?) 
                and the item just might loose all of its value. 

I have 
                purchased large quantities of rare items many times over the 
                years and have sold them for prices related to the find. 

Ken
Just 
                Kids Nostalgia

                

                

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To: mop...@listserv.american.edu
Sent: 
                Sun, Aug 1, 2010 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding 
                the market


                At 12:44 PM 
                8/1/2010, Richard Evans wrote: 
>Yes Rich, you 
                describe the best method. 
>Alternatively, 
                there's: 
>Approach a dealer with your find of 
                perhaps half a dozen max, >(that's all there is, no 
                really). 
>Approach second dealer (that's all there 
                is, no really), third etc, >etc, etc, and endeavor to get it 
                done as swiftly as possible. 
>Change telephone 
                number, move to a nicer house. 
 
the only 
                problem with that Richard is this: 
after you call the 
                third dealer, seeing as we all talk to each other (more or 
less) 
                it would be pretty fast - maybe just hours - that everyone 
would 
                know you have multiples of the items 
 
of 
                course, if you lie to every dealer so you can sell them fast, I 
                imagine that Guido will be looking for 
                you 
 
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