thanks RICH...!!!   what a clear and concise plan from a wise dealer.

the only part I was wondering since im a animal advocate  how could i
do this similar using me and a number two pencil and some masking
tape.
> may the farce be wit you
>---- Original Message ----
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected],
>[email protected]
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
>extraundisclosed folds
>Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:29:20 -0700
>
>>I have 2 teams of couriers on hand at all times to handle my package
>
>>deliveries Tom.
>>for all regular packages, I have a team of wild dogs. each one is 
>>equipped with a harness basket that the packages go in. the packages
>
>>each have a unique scent that applies only to the street that the 
>>recipient lives in in North America (that means Canada too). 
>>sometimes the scent doesn't relate to a single domicile, so the dogs
>
>>can be found wandering the neighborhood.
>>
>>I also have a team of tortoises for local deliveries, although I
>have 
>>been thinking of replacing them with scorpions because the tortoises
>
>>have been crossing the road too slow and we've lost a couple.. um.. 
>>packages recently
>>
>>for overseas shipping, I found a service by some weird guy in a 
>>bathing suit called Aquaman Express
>>
>>so far our couriers have been doing a good job and I rarely get 
>>complaints of dog chews or water stains, so I'm happy
>>
>>
>>At 07:21 PM 10/7/2011, [email protected] wrote:
>>>  Im curious what shipping others use..
>>>I typically send priority mail... with delivery confirmation.. I
>put
>>>folded posters in some cardboard then wrap in foam..
>>>
>>>If rolled i use a Yazoo tube either 2 inch, 3 inchor 4 inche.. i
>wrap
>>>in fom and kraft paper.
>>>  for me it seems to cost 700 10,00 depending on where it goes..
>>>overseas islike
>>>average 30.00   Unless someone demand 1st class then its like 15-8
>>>but i warn the customer there is no good tracking and its slower.
>>>
>>>the priority also i can get the box supplie free.. otherwize a tub
>>>cost is average like 2 -3.00 and other materials you can have like
>>>3-5 in materials
>>>If i get heavy boxes i use fed ex groundor priority flat rate
>>>  I hope to sell  some more  posters on ebay soon Ihave some horror
>>>drive in movies stuff 60-70s
>>>  I would appreciate some input from collectors and dealers so i
>can
>>>improve my service better.
>>>thanks Folks everyone have a good night
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >---- Original Message ----
>>> >From: [email protected]
>>> >To: [email protected]
>>> >Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
>extra
>>> >undisclosed folds
>>> >Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 22:08:41 -0400
>>> >
>>> >>Are you kidding??????????
>>> >>All this fuss over a $38 poster
>>> >>
>>> >>Burn it now.
>>> >>
>>> >>CJL
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 7:43:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>been there, done that, "aint goin' back"
>>> >>
>>> >>seller told me he/she got this on consignment..............and
>>> >seller not
>>> >>willing.  as i see it, seller charged 45 including shipping.  i
>>> >think
>>> >>postage to me was about 7.00.
>>> >>
>>> >>this is not a high ticket item.
>>> >>
>>> >>thanks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 7:40:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>You sound like a martyr...saying you'll "accept your loss".  If
>it
>>> >was me,
>>> >>I'd ask for a partial refund.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 4:37:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>i am not dragging this out..............  i am  accepting my
>loss.
>>> >>
>>> >>i am just answering question people on this  site.
>>> >>
>>> >>had seller been more responsive initially, and more 
>responsible,
>>> >MOPO
>>> >>never would have heard about this.
>>> >>
>>> >>this site got his to finally answer
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>michael
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 7:34:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>Sheesh....why don't you just ask the dealer for a partial refund
>>> >and keep
>>> >>the damn poster. This isn't rocket science. So much whining and
>>> >>complaining.  Either keep the poster or tell the seller you
>expect
>>> >him to pay your
>>> >>cost for shipping it back. He sounds like a  reasonable person.
>>> >What's the
>>> >>problem here?  Things like this  happen on eBay all the time.
>You've
>>> >gotten
>>> >>solutions from a bunch of  different sources, but it seems as if
>>> >you'd rather
>>> >>just sit there and  complain.....
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 4:03:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>after the poster was folded with the studio folds,  it was
>folded
>>> >>again...............hence 4 exta fold lines.    but these fold
>lines
>>> >have lots and
>>> >>lots of crumpling around  them............
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 6:44:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>how much in value could a $40 poster decrease?
>>> >>
>>> >>was this insert folded in quarters as normal, and then folded 
>in
>>> >half
>>> >>again (about a 5" x 14" rectangle)?  is that how it got  4 extra
>>> >folds?
>>> >>or are the extra folds just where it was originally folded and 
>then
>>> >
>>> >>sloppily folded back creating an extra?
>>> >>
>>> >>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>From:  _Michael B_ (mailto:[email protected])
>>> >>To: [email protected]_
>>> >(mailto:[email protected])
>>> >>Sent: Friday, October 07,  2011 6:34 PM
>>> >>Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra  folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
>extra
>>> >>undisclosed folds
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>when i first wrote, i thought people might comment  about the
>>> >decrease in
>>> >>value due to 4 extra  folds.
>>> >>
>>> >>over the last year, i was outbid twice......once with  a bidding
>>> >>war------on bruce's site for an insert.  i recall,  the poster
>>> >selling at bruce's site
>>> >>for about 130 amd 180.   (and you know his pictures are clear
>and he
>>> >adds
>>> >>words when  there are extra folds)
>>> >>
>>> >>a few months ago, an ebay seller...........very
>>> >honest------------listed
>>> >>the same insert for 69.99.  he  disclosed 4 extra folds.  you
>can
>>> >also see
>>> >>the folds in the  images.  the poster never sold at 69.99.  i
>would
>>> >have
>>> >>grabbed it at that price, had there been no extra folds.  the
>>> >seller has
>>> >>re-listed the poster at a very, very low start  price.  KNOWING
>THE
>>> >DEFECT, which
>>> >>the seller disclosed both  in words and photographs, this time
>will
>>> >sell.  i
>>> >>will be a  bidder.  but i wouldn't want to bid, win, and then
>open a
>>> >
>>> >>package and be surprised.
>>> >>
>>> >>we bid based on condition.  when condition is  not disclosed,
>prices
>>> >get
>>> >>inflated.
>>> >>
>>> >>as to your questions rich------------i paid high for  the
>>> >title......it did
>>> >>not sell for a long time.  so people  believing it was near mint
>as
>>> >i did,
>>> >>dint think it was a good  value.  now, with this defect, it is
>worth
>>> >a lot
>>> >>less...................  and seller is not cooperating in the
>>> >return.  i am
>>> >>about to just end it, take my  loss...........
>>> >>
>>> >>michael
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 6:18:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
>Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>John, I disagree
>>> >>
>>> >>if a seller has mis-described or  not properly reported
>condition
>>> >issues
>>> >>that should be noted if  not visible, then I believe (as I'm
>sure
>>> >does Bruce,
>>> >>Sean and  most dealers) that I should be paying return shipping
>-
>>> >unless
>>> >>some other deal was worked out like a small discount, 
>replacement
>>> >etc.
>>> >>
>>> >>the buyer might not have bid as much or  at all if the condition
>was
>>> >
>>> >>properly described, so that would on  my head, not my
>customer's.
>>> >>
>>> >>if a seller on ebay tells me  he won't accept returns for
>instance
>>> >under
>>> >>any circumstances, I  don't care if he has a Double Indemnity 1
>>> >sheet up
>>> >>that's about  to close for $1000. I'm not bidding, because I'm
>not
>>> >going to
>>> >>consider putting up with any bullshyte
>>> >>
>>> >>similarly, if the  seller says I accept returns if I incorrectly
>>> >described,
>>> >>but you  pay shipping and I will not refund your other shipping
>>> >either..
>>> >>I'm telling that dealer to kiss my lily white a$$ and I'm taking
> my
>>> >dollars
>>> >>elsewhere
>>> >>
>>> >>If a buyer after receipt says "Hey,  you didn't do anything
>wrong,
>>> >but I
>>> >>find that I don't like this  piece as much as I thought I might
>and
>>> >I would
>>> >>like to return  it", I happily take return, but shipping in
>neither
>>> >direction
>>> >>will be refunded. I will not take any other action against the
>>> >buyer. he
>>> >>may bid freely in the future.
>>> >>
>>> >>if the buyer  after receipt says "you f*cking suck and I want to
>>> >return
>>> >>this".. well that gets back to the lily white  thingy
>>> >>
>>> >>Rich
>>> >>
>>> >>At 03:05 PM 10/7/2011, JOHN REID  Vintage Movie Memorabilia
>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Just  another point about this. The issue seems to be about
>whether
>>> >the
>>> >>seller should pay for return shipping. eBay actually  requires
>all
>>> >sellers to
>>> >>specify a return policy and also to  indicate who pays for the
>>> >poster to be
>>> >>sent back. Surely it  should be just a case of checking the
>sellers
>>> >policy
>>> >>which is  clearly displayed in the listing. If the listing says
>that
>>> >the
>>> >>seller won't pay for return shipping then they shouldnt be 
>expected
>>> >to change
>>> >>their policy.
>>> >>
>>> >>-----  Original Message -----
>>> >>
>>> >>From:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>_Richard Halegua Comic  Art_ (mailto:[email protected])
>>> >>
>>> >>To: [email protected]_
>>> >(mailto:[email protected])
>>> >>
>>> >>Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:55 AM
>>> >>
>>> >>Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4  4 4 4 4
>extra
>>> >>undisclosed folds
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Michael
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>are you telling me that the dealer wouldn't pay for your 
>shipping
>>> >cost
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>or
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>that maybe he got irritated at you after your  messages/MoPo and
>>> >told you
>>> >>to f*ck off?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>or
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>are you saying you feel you got a good enough price in  buying
>it
>>> >that you
>>> >>don't want to return it?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>It makes a world of difference which of these 3  situations is
>the
>>> >answer
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>if the latter is the case Michael, then I don't see why  you say
>you
>>> >were
>>> >>"burnt" or that you will "take a hit"
>>> >>
>>> >>if the latter is not the case, then something isn't  right
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Rich
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>At 02:42 PM 10/7/2011, Michael B wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>not at all.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>it was never my intent to embarrass the  mega-dealer-seller.  my
>>> >posting
>>> >>was merely to get the  seller to respond, if he were a MOPO
>member.
>>> >the
>>> >>picture of the poster on ebay looks near mint....even hard  to
>see
>>> >the studio
>>> >>folds.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>i was burnt and disappointed in this  transaction.........
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>i repeat:  the picture of the poster on ebay  looks mint....even
>>> >hard to
>>> >>see the studio folds.   ....no hint of extra fold on the
>>> >photo.......but
>>> >>offensive  in person.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>looks like i will take a hit on this one, because when  i sell
>it, i
>>> >will
>>> >>disclose the defects.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>easy for those who don't get slapped to say to the  other to
>turn
>>> >the other
>>> >>cheek.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>michael
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>In a message dated 10/7/2011 4:56:57 P.M. Eastern  Daylight
>Time,
>>> >>[email protected] writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>Fascinating is all I can say.
>>> >>
>>> >>This buyer who complained so loudly has now gone  completely
>silent
>>> >and
>>> >>turned his mute button on. Why?
>>> >>
>>> >>And with still no links to this incorrectly  described (4 4 4
>>> >folded)
>>> >>poster, and no response to those that questioned,  criticized
>and
>>> >>commented on his premature outburst towards a seller  who was/is
>>> >>willing to work with him-- speaks volumes about this 
>individual's
>>> >own
>>> >>integrity and transparency.
>>> >>
>>> >>I see he also occasionally lists a number of posters  for sale
>on
>>> >ebay,
>>> >>with every color in the rainbow used in the  descriptive fonts
>>> >>(psychedelic trip?). Let's just hope that each and  every flaw
>on
>>> >those
>>> >>posters have been accurately disclosed. I am willing  to bet
>that
>>> >there
>>> >>are small imperfections that have not been seen and  therefore,
>not
>>> >
>>> >>disclosed.
>>> >>
>>> >>And if someone found an undisclosed flaw and wanted  to return a
>>> >>purchased poster to him, would this seller pay for  return
>shipping
>>> >
>>> >>and/or take a price reduction decided by the unhappy  buyer?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>-KL
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Michael B  <[email protected]>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>> when a poster is "not as described" or has  undisclosed
>defects,
>>> >it
>>> >>should be
>>> >>> the seller that paye the return postage?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> i am waiting for the seller to confirm this.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> i was happy to see that the seller read my  posting on MOPO,
>and
>>> >>responded,
>>> >>> but he needs to confirm that he will pay the  return postage.
>>> >>>
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