Maybe he figured that after his refusal you'll come to your senses and settle for one of his prints. After all, it is HIS autograph you're standing in line for, right? Or so he thinks.
Zeev From: Franc [mailto:fdav...@verizon.net] Sent: February 21, 2012 12:30 PM To: 'Zeev Drach'; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: RE: [MOPO] paying for autographs I guess I sort of understand that but if the celebrity is going to refuse to sign someone's personal memorabilia the celebrity should take into account that he's going to lose his autograph fee, which is exactly what happened to Sam J. Jones in my case since I didn't want any of the reprints that he was willing to sign. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:17 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Let me explain. Some celebrities feel that only they should be able to benefit from sales of their image. Especially in a show where they are present. Imagine a celebrity being asked to sign a real cool looking image, which is a repro, and again and again fans show up with the same image to be autographed, just because another dealer at that show has a whole stack for sale.. It doesn't come out of their pocket, but you can understand if that celebrity gets jealous or upset. Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: February 20, 2012 4:03 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs I don't understand the point your making. Take my example of Sam J. Jones. I brought him over a One sheet from Flash Gordon and a centerfold. They were items I owned but for all he knew I might have bought the One sheet from you at the show and maybe the centerfold from some magazine dealer at the show. By refusing to sign both, which he did, he could easily curtail your sales of his memorabilia, as well as any other dealer who brought Same J. Jones memorabilia with them to sell. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:55 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, the simple fact that they charge extra to sign an item you carried over to them is an action all by itself that makes consumers not buy more items to bring over. The star doesn't have to be targeting dealers to put the dealers in a situation where they make less money At 12:51 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't see it that way because each of these stars brings tons of crappy repro pictures which is mostly what they sign at the shows. I don't see a lot of folks buying posters and lobby cards from the dealers to bring over to the celebrities for autographing. Nor would the celebriies know whether or not you bought something from a dealer to be autographed or if you took it out of your personal collection. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com <mailto:sa...@comic-art.com> ] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:40 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, as a dealer, the stars asking for more money to sign the photo you brought in is a restraint on the dealers in the room. Dealers who purposely bring items of the stars will sell fewer items to fans who would otherwise buy them to get autographed, so the actors and actresses are doing a dirty to the dealers. on the other hand, if they do not wish to be photographed with you, that is their prerogative. it's the ones who scream at the guy 20 feet away "don't take my picture" that I think are being foolish At 12:33 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't even object to that. I just object to celebrities being at these shows and then refusing to sign a personal item or be in a photo with you no matter the price you're willing to pay. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc one of the things that I do think is fairly retarded is that at the Hollywood show, many stars will charge you an extra $5 to sign the item you walked in with. let's do the math $30 for me to give you my photo that cost me money with my autograph. $35 for your photo which cost me nothing if anything, it should be reversed - $25 to sign your photo At 12:09 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I was actually at an autograph in which Ann-Margaret was the star attraction and there was a huge sign announcing "no photos". She was however selling her own photos and autographs. I thought that was ridiculous. I was also at a show with Sam J. Jones. I was willing to pay him to autograph things I brought auch as the one sheet from Flash Gordon and his centerfold but he was only willing to autograph the photo repro crap he brought with him. Admittedly I wanted to re-sell that stuff on Ebay but he didn't know that. He told me he was "in a different place now". I wanted to inform him that he was at a tacky celebrity show in Burbank but I didn't bother. If celebrities don't want to be photographed in a public place, I can almost understand that but if they actually come to a celebrity show to sell their autographs and their photos, I can't fathom why they wouldn't allow a fan to take a photo with them or to autograph a personal memorabilia that a fan has brought especially when the fan would pay for this dubious honor. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:59 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc.. I agree that people saying "don't take my picture" when they are in a public place is also ridiculous. You are in a public place and when companies are filming movies in a casino (for instance) there are signs up explaining that being in the general area constitutes your agreement to be filmed without remuneration. Why should that apply to me, but not Ann-Margret?? At 11:41 AM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: Frankly, I get pissed off when celebrities come to a show and won't allow anyone to take their photo such as Ann-Margaret or won't sign personal items you've brought such as Sam J. Jones. You wonder why did they bother coming to a celebrity autograph show?. I have no problem however with them asking for money for this. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:21 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Not sure if Mike's "Right or Wrong" question pertains to the celebrities selling their autographs at shows or the buyers selling their signed merchandise. Either way, it's a legal living unless they are forged. Nothing wrong with it. I get a kick out of meeting the child stars like Jay North, Paul Peterson, Jon Provost, Mary Badham, Erin Murphy, etc. at some of the events. But sometimes can't help wondering why they would spend an entire day or weekend seated behind a table selling their autographs for $10 each or posing with you for pictures for the same price. Sports figures sometimes have an autograph clause in their contracts requiring them to appear at exhibitions, sign autographs and generate income for the sponsors. From: Claude Litton <twoni...@aol.com> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs you ask if it is RIGHT OR WRONG What is wrong with selling something you have that someone else wants and is willing to pay for it. In addition it matters not how it was acquired . If you own it and want to sell it - go for it. I'll give you an example. What about those who sell the catalogs they get free from Heritage? Claude In a message dated 2/20/2012 10:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dialmbb...@aol.com writes: read the last posting dated January Jan 11, 2012 of the link below http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11 <http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11&f=18&t=8242> &f=18&t=8242 i know that some ballplayers appearing at sport shows charge for autographs. OJ !!! some celebrities do, likewise. is that right or wrong ? keep in mind, many people, including MOPOers have told that they mail inserts, photographs to film-stars, include a return envelope and ask for an autograph, which receive gracious responses. (obviously more stories like that years ago before a celebrity died) michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com <http://www.filmfan.com/> ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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