As an outsider, I'm puzzled by these personal attacks.
What does Rich have against you, Bruce?
It's so confusing to understand the allegiances
between one dealer and another, or to figure out why one hates the other...
Bruce, I hope I didn't offend you when I
thanked Rich for posting his story --
especially since Rich was writing about
"lobbing dog poop" and my age while I was writing that post...
Sigh.... had I known...
From: Bruce Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
I can't promise how I will feel. I have never
posted against you in any way until now, and
even now it was solely because of your relentless attacks on me.
I don't see why you feel anything here is your
battle. I am weary of the entire endless
bickering, but will not allow attacks to go
unanswered, so if you want all this to end, then let it end.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Richard
Halegua Comic Art <<mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>sa...@comic-art.com> wrote:
Bruce
I think I've had enough of this silliness
in the last hour, you accused me of smearing you on APF.
You may be my friend, but at some point, I just can't take it anymore.
I want your assurance, before I post a "Bruce
isn't perfect story" I do know, that you will not get angry at my post.
I am not disturbed at you as my friend, but I'm
getting disturbed at you as La Bruce and I'm
not wanting to antagonize you, But I think it's
time for some leveling of the playing field
Rich
At 06:13 PM 6/11/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
Was this addressed? Is there no chance the
person who opened the package did not enter all the contents?
If it was, then that really completely closes
the matter, down to an unsolvable puzzle.
If it was addressed, I certainly apologize.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Franc
<<mailto:fdav...@verizon.net>fdav...@verizon.net> wrote:
I can't believe Bruce that you're actually
doing one more pass on this. You have a great
operation. I've bought many things from you
over the years and I was always very happy
with your service. But so does Grey.
Constantly criticizing his operation, doesn't
make yours any better. It just makes you seem unprofessional. FRANC
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mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:15 PM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
Grey
That was a great detailed reply. I just have
one question (and forgive me if this has been
addressed in some way, because there has been
so much posted about this that I can't wrap my head around it all.
My question is, were you personally there when
either or both packages were opened? If not,
how can you know that an employee did not
remove the more valuable posters that are now
supposedly missing? It seems that this is a
loose end that I have not seen addressed.
In my operation, I have one person who opens
absolutely EVERY package (Clark) and he has
been with me 10 years and I trust him
implicitly. I want him to open every single
package so that the day a dispute like this
would arise (and it never has) then the ONLY
two possible answers would be that the person
who sent the package misremembered (or lied) or that Clark stole the items.
Do you either personally witness each package
being opened, or do you have a single employee
who does this (as I do) or do you have cameras recording the opening?
I do think your addressing this earlier would
have been better, because the combination of
your remaining silent (and the offer to
settle) creates an appearance of negligence or
guilt on your part. Now you have certainly
placed the ball back in Geraldine's court,
forcing her to refute your statements, or come up with additional evidence.
Bruce
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:54 PM, David
Kusumoto <<mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com>
davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Grey -
* As one of the few who defended Geraldine's
right to post - and who knew the tactical
reasons why you/Heritage remained silent - and
who also wrote and spoke to you personally
about this train wreck - I'm glad you finally
felt unleashed to strongly defend yourself
here. Your response is clear, easy to follow
and portrays your role as a non-aggressor -
whose every effort to resolve this dispute was
rebuffed. I wonder if the only outcome that
would have been satisfactory to Geraldine was
a full retail cash settlement and an admission of guilt.
* What bothered me was the small amounts in
dispute in relation to the big-dollar picture
of Heritage's operations. When any person
takes his or her grievances public, it's
almost always the court of last resort, as
most disagreements broil beneath the surface
for many weeks or months before exploding in
public. The elapsed time between the start of
this dispute to today - was far too long, with
the "MoPo portion" of this dispute stretching
more than two months. I never like it when
any entity starts to lose control of a dispute
- despite the besieged entity being in full
possession of the facts as it knows
them. It's hard to ascribe intent to both
sides - when only one side is doing the
talking. The analysis of your motives by
third parties was bothersome to me because
they were "testimonial" guesses - vs. what you
and I have talked about privately - and how it
all matches up with your post below. The
relevance of third parties speaking on your
behalf is that it painted a bad picture to
lurking collectors about which dealers were
taking sides against a disgruntled
consumer/consignor - and what adverse impact
this might have on their reputations as
"customer-and-consignor-friendly" businesses.
* I apologize that many people interpreted my
defense of Geraldine's right to post - as
equivalent to a condemnation of Heritage
generally and of you personally. From the
beginning, having talked and met with you and
Heritage co-chief Jim Halperin in person, I've
always felt it impossible to believe that
you're capable of intentional (or even
unintentional) maliciousness. However much I
defend a person's right to post, in the end,
as John wrote, it's always more clear how
things really are - when we can hear both
sides. My apologies again and my best to you. -d.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:01:47 -0500
From: <mailto:gre...@ha.com>gre...@ha.com
Subject: Kudaka and Lippincott
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
I feel I must now respond to Ms.
Kudakaââ¢s bizarre accusations of
âmissing or stolenâ posteosters, and
the ongoing discussions about her accusations on MOPO.
Many of your know me personally, and know how
hard I work to maintain my credibility and
reputation. I have taken thousands of
consignments in my eleven years with Heritage
Auctions, and have sold well over $50 million
in movie posters. In all that time, I cannot
recall anyone ever accusing me or Heritage of
stealing their movie posters before this! In
fact most of our consignments come from repeat
sellers and their friends, and I believe our
consignor satisfaction ratings compare
favorably with those of any of the worldââ¬s auction houses.
Here is a link to all of the documents we just
sent to Ms. Kudakaâs attorney, including a
letter fromrom Heritageâs attorney, in
answer to her inquiry as to how her husband
and her posters were handled while with
Heritage:
<http://movieposters.ha.com/images/Lippincott-060512.pdf>http://movieposters.ha.com/images/Lippincott-060512.pdf
Ms. Kudakaâs accusation that items werwere
lost or stolen are contradicted by the
evidence. Other than Rudy Franchiââ¬s
referral, all of my initial dealings were
directly with Mr. Lippincott via telephone
and emails. Prior to receiving her complaints
I had no contact whatsoever with Ms. Kudaka,
who, it seems, remains very confused
concerning the business her husband did with Heritage.
For example, she states that from their first
consignment we did not inform them that a
Clockwork Orange poster would be sold at a
later date than their other posters. In fact,
a schedule was made at almost the very same
time as her other posters were inventoried and
both of those were mailed to them, as seen in
the documents within the link. In a phone
discussion with Mr. Lippincott, soon after the
first consignment arrived, I informed him that
Heritage had just sold a slightly better
condition R-Rated revamp campaign poster for
Clockwork in the previous November of 2009
auction
<http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89585>http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89585
and therefore I thought it best to wait until
July of 2010 to sell the one he had sent
me. I explained that running one right after
the other may not be the best way to get a
better price. He told me he was happy to do
that and indeed that is what we did: In July
of 2010, a few months after weâd auctioned
the rest ot of their material (in March of
2010), we auctioned the Clockwork poster
<http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7025&lotNo=83150>http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7025&lotNo=83150
for a very solid price. Now if that is not
looking out for a consignor, tell me what is?
Ms. Kudaka now claims they did not sign an
agreement to sell that poster. Again, she is
confused, as Mr. Lippincott signed a Master
agreement which covered the sale of any of
their material for one year (among the documents linked to, above).
She then claims that she and Mr. Lippincott
mailed us material from which several posters
went missing. However, as you can also see in
the linked attachment documents, several days
after mailing us an unsolicited consignment,
Mr. Lippincott emailed me a list of what was
mailed. The spreadsheet, again in the linked
documents, shows exactly what was mailed from
Mr. Lippincott to us, and on that spreadsheet
there is no Get Carter one sheet nor a John
and Yoko one sheet that Ms. Kudaka now claims
were sent. She is simply wrong, as easily seen by the spreadsheet.
In fact, after realizing that the two posters
she later claimed were sent to us had not
arrived, I asked in an email to her why she
thought those had been sent. In response, she
emailed back, âCharley jots the list down
on a legal pad of what is going out.ââ¬Â
Ms. Kudaka still apparently didnât (an(and
perhaps still doesnât) realize that Mr.
Lippincott had already sent me the
spreadsheet, and they were not jotted down there.
Very soon after I received Mr.
Lippincottâââ¢s unsolicited, second
consignment, I phoned him and explained that
the posters he mailed were not of enough value
for a Signature auction then asked whether he
would care to sell in a weekly auction or
would he rather I just mail them back. He
replied something to the effect of, â¬I
donât know w but will let you know
soon.â I guess my mistaake, if there was
one, at that time was that I did not contact
Mr. Lippincott again to remind him that I
still had his posters in a secure spot and to
ask him again what he wanted us to do with
them. By the way, an unsolicited consignment,
for those of you not familiar with the term,
means a potential consignment that was never
discussed with us or approved by us prior to being shipped.
Ms. Kudaka claims we did not handle Mr.
Lippincottââ¬s second batch of material in
an appropriate inventoried manner. The answer
as seen in our letter to her attorney is that
the consignment was unsolicited and was never
accepted by us as a consignment. It remained
in a box marked with his name on it until it
was finally returned. We typically donât
make an inventoried scheduedule unless we
agree to take the consignment. In fact the
only reason we did not return the packages
unopened, as unsolicited consignments are
normally handled, is that I recognized they were from Mr. Lippincott.
Furthermore, we did not mail back the posters
in her same packaging material as she claims
since usually when inspecting material mailed,
one must open it to look at it. In fact, I
feel sure that the packaging that we used to
return all of her posters was more secure than
the packaging they were mailed to us in. All
of the posters on the spreadsheet that Mr.
Lippincott sent to us were returned, as can be
seen by our mailing documents. We also mailed
back a French Grande for Star Wars that was
not mentioned on their list, which we knew belonged to them.
My offer to donate to charity the value of the
posters they erroneously thought they had sent
to us was purely an attempt to get through a
hurdle which I felt sure was just a fact of
their recent move, and perhaps their confusion
from that ordeal, as she had mentioned to me
in an email. At that time I had hopes of doing
further business and proving our ability to
them. Sadly my offer was taken by Ms. Kudaka
as some sort of admission. Since then, she has
gone on and on, on this chat group and who
knows where else, maligning my and Heritageâs reputation.
>
Apparently a few others on this forum have
been trying to use her confusion to their
advantage, though Iâm hm happy and grateful to see us defended, too.
Meanwhile Ms. Kudaka continues to post her
wild accusations using hearsay, speculation,
and imagined conversations, trying to imply
wrongdoing. I could offer further emails
between the parties but I truly hope it
wonât be necessary to waste te my own and everyone elseâs time any more.
>
Heritage is a fairly large enterprise and of
course has dealt with a relatively small
number (given its size) of false accusations
from time to time. I view them as attempts to
take aim at a larger corporation, but I
suppose they are defaming me as well. I have
never intentionally deceived or misled anyone
in my dealings, nor would I work for a company
who does. In fact I would gladly offer sworn
testimony under oath as to the truthfulness of
all of the attached documents as well as to
the issue of whether I received the two posters in question.
Sorry again for the long email but any
accusation that Heritage or I would pilfer,
mishandle or neglect someoneââ¢s
consignment is either an ignorant mistruth or
a malicious lie. Have we ever misplaced a
poster before? Yes, but very rarely, and on
those very few occasions, Heritage has always
settled quickly, fairly and in an amicable manner with the consignor.
Thanks for reading this. I hope I donââ¢t
have to say much more about it, other than to
again express my very sincere gratitude to
those who have defended Heritage and me on this forum.
Grey
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