* Sister Mary Frances what in the sam heck are the usual suspects getting into a lather about? Bruce's post was his routine marketing pitch to look at prices in his auctions as they are today. Only a person with an intense axe to grind - would read Bruce's promotion as an academic dissertation about investments when he himself concedes his intent is "self-serving" by saying prices can be less than what they were in the past. I read it as there could be good buys, that's all - a proxy for his standard reminder that his auctions are closing soon. It's not even rhetoric. It's straight up marketing. Not an financial prospectus from Suzie Orman or the Fed.
* Only a person with intense animus against Bruce would be triggered to re-litigate how movie posters are lousy currency vs. comic books, which indirectly insults every person who trades in movie paper - as a sucker who's small potatoes compared to him. God forbid if he passes soon with no heirs as he admits having gigantic stacks of posters like a hoarder who's gonna run out of time. * Patently obvious to me who's trying to start fights on a MOVIE POSTER discussion group - against a figure in our hobby - who NEVER acknowledges his existence. Rich's takes about sentimental value not passing through to later generations aren't wrong - but his tone drips with ridicule - as if MoPo is made up of an ignorant school of fish collecting posters with low asset value - compared to "investment success" as he defines it. * In my view, success isn't defined by asset value. What a person possesses in affability or being a mensch every day - matters more than assets you can't take with you. In sum, if your intelligence and asset portfolio are a "10" - but your personality is a "2," then you're a "2." It's like surface beauty - a depreciating asset. Only the affluent can afford to upgrade / trade-out beauty for something "newer" - until their time runs out - or they lose interest entirely. - d. --- Meanwhile, switching gears from the aforementioned unpleasantness. * Just got Walter Reuben's latest catalog online. Spectacular. Among its many beauties - is an 8 x 10 still from 1930 featuring Bogart prominently in a publicity shot - despite being in a supporting role. [https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9985/wFvJDK.jpg?trnonsuspmrk=1] Walter's latest catalog is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jSFCQ_FkaM5AzRXX5zwhHvhgMdNRMozx/view?pli=1 * Also kudos to the recent gallery updates from Matt McCarthy, https://filmartgallery.com/collections/vintage-movie-posters-halloween-2023 * Helmut Hamm, https://www.filmposter.net/en/new-additions/ * ...and John Hazleton. https://www.filmposters.com/results.cfm?search=newarrivals -d. ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Richard Halegua MPB.auction <richadmin@MPB.AUCTION> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:03 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>>>>>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? purchases in collectibles that result in investments are serendipitous, and myself I never collected posters for anything other than spiritual investment I only find it funny when people say something is a good investment and then pointing out why they've been a terrible investment. It was just rhetoric of course, but certainly not well thought out message. as to Forbidden Planet.. Randy Ringenberg had a very nicely backed one at the Columbus show for just $6500 and it did not sell. I don't think it will get down to 1500, but there may still be some savings to come. Maybe by then you can just use some of your dividends, instead of putting them into the reinvestment program for a month and not sell any shares ;-) ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Johnson Tom <tmjbr...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 8:37 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>>>>>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? Well..as a collector, I couldn't be happier that prices have stalled out. In 50 years I have never bought a poster as an investment, unless I found an incredible deal that could help me roll it over into something I wanted. I'd be thrilled if the bottom fell completely out of the market. With my finances and collecting field I can only afford to buy a couple of posters a year--if prices dumped further I'd be all over it. I've thoroughly enjoyed selling off my other collectibles that did jump way up in value and using that money to buy movie posters. If posters are an investment to you...guess you shoulda bought Apple at $35 and Amazon at $76 instead of Maltese Falcon at $67,000. oops. I did both of the former. Can't wait to sell my shares for for Forbidden Planet at $1500. ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Richard Halegua MPB.auction <richadmin@MPB.AUCTION> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:42 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>>>>>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? your better posters would do much better at Heritage, no question. ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Glenn Taranto <exit82afi...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:39 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>>>>>Re: [MOPO] FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? I've told my Niece and Nephew that when I go to send my posters to Bruce. Explaining, "You'll likely never get what I paid for them but it'll be money in your pocket you wouldn't have had otherwise. Even if it's five bucks, get a cup of coffee and think of me!" Glenn T. ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Richard Halegua MPB.auction <richadmin@MPB.AUCTION> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:25 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? 100% Tommy if it isn't going up in price, it's not an investment now I can understand saying "the investment in yourself" as clearly we buy posters for personal enjoyment, so the $3000 I paid for a super-sharp Murder My Sweet one sheet in 2001 and have framed at home was an investment in my enjoyment and every day, the cost of the enjoyment goes down a little. My cost was almost $9 a day in the first year I owned it, and went down to $4.50 the second year and after 22 years, it's 5 cents a day. but as a monetary vehicle, posters have a pathetic track record the last 20 years, especially pre-Star Wars posters ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:43 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? Strangely, most people I know want to invest in something that has gone up in price. Tommy ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Sean Linkenback <s...@llpslaw.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:56 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? Is this really something that people say to you, or is it just ad copy? It seems that most of the collectibles that have soared in recent years are all areas that have 3rd party grading greatly involved and accepted in the hobby. Unless movie posters follow suit, we are probably not going to see those kind of dramatic increases (good for us collectors when buying, not so much when selling). At the last major auction we saw a Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes sell for as much or more than Forbidden Planet and Day the Earth Stood Still one-sheets. My guess is we will continue to see this kind of shift during Bruce's Halloween auction, as emphasis grows on 80s/90s titles (and Star Wars of course), while 50s/60s titles will continue to tread water. Sean -- G. Sean Linkenback - Attorney 3217 S Cherokee Ln. Ste 740 Woodstock, GA 30188 Office: (470) 632-7833 Fax: (404) 330-9206 Email: s...@llpslaw.com<mailto:s...@llpslaw.com> Twitter: @Linkenback ________________________________ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Bruce Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 5:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: FA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years? People keep saying to me "Bruce, what is something I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent years?". Can I self-servingly suggest vintage movie paper? It might SEEM like I am saying this because that is my livelihood, but it is 100% true that a LOT of vintage movie posters sell for the same or similar prices that they did 20 or more years ago, including both great ones and lesser ones! This is something you can't say about just about ANYTHING else, from real estate to the stock market to groceries to oil, to almost EVERY other kind of collectible! While many of the best examples of comic books or baseball cards or so many other collectibles are "out of sight" to an average person, you CAN still buy a wonderful movie poster for a surprisingly reasonable price! Want proof? Take a gander at my company's (eMoviePoster.com's) current 3,185 auctions currently running in our 3-part 24th Annual Halloween Auction at https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html These 3,185 auctions are FILLED with great horror/sci-fi/fantasy items at every price level, and at the current bid prices, most are at huge discounts to prices of the same or similar items many years ago! But you can't get those great deals if you aren't bidding, so why not go to the above links RIGHT NOW? We think you will surely find the great rarities and many low prices an irresistible combination! 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