[Krimel]
So let's review: You quote Seeger to support your right wing fantasies. But
when the context is made clear you entered into a debate with his song?

Thanks for another lesson in the obscure workings of the conservative mind. 


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> [Platt]
> I seem to remember a yuppie song that asked something like, "When will
> they 
> ever learn?" Obviously, the current generation hasn't.
> 
> [Krimel]
> It was a song by socialist Pete Seeger protesting war. But you are right
> some never learn...
 
> Where have all the flowers gone?
> Long time passing
> Where have all the flowers gone?
> Long time ago
> Where have all the flowers gone?
> Girls have picked them every one
> When will they ever learn?
> When will they ever learn?

Still plenty of flowers where I live.

> Where have all the young girls gone?
> Long time passing
> Where have all the young girls gone?
> Long time ago
> Where have all the young girls gone?
> Taken husbands every one
> When will they ever learn?
> When will they ever learn?

Also plenty of young girls.

> Where have all the young men gone?
> Long time passing
> Where have all the young men gone?
> Long time ago
> Where have all the young men gone?
> Gone for soldiers every one
> When will they ever learn?
> When will they ever learn?

And young men.

> Where have all the soldiers gone?
> Long time passing
> Where have all the soldiers gone?
> Long time ago
> Where have all the soldiers gone?
> Gone to graveyards every one
> When will they ever learn?
> When will they ever learn?

And soldiers, willing to protect our freedom. Seeger was the typical 
pacifist 20th century intellectual:

 "In the battle of society against biology, the new twentieth-century 
intellectuals have taken biology's side. Society can handle biology alone 
by means of prisons and guns and police and the military. But when the 
intellectuals in control of society take biology's side against society 
then society is caught in a cross fire from which it has no protection, " 
Lila, 24)

> Where have all the graveyards gone?
> Long time passing
> Where have all the graveyards gone?
> Long time ago
> Where have all the graveyards gone?
> Covered with flowers every one
> When will we ever learn?
> When will we ever learn?

When will we ever learn it takes courage and sacrifice to defend freedom? 
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