Arlo, On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:47 AM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR <ajb...@psu.edu> wrote: > [Dan] > Interesting... from what I understand, what Pirsig did was to actively engage > the students in evaluating their own work. > > [Arlo] > Before we move any further on this path, Dan, let me ask a question. Given > the above, do you think Pirsig's expertise (in content? in pedagogy?) was in > any way valuable to the student?
Dan: Yes, of course. [Arlo] Overall, do you think there is a role for an expert/mentor/instructor at all? Dan: Yes. [Arlo] In the above, it suggests (to me) that motivating/encouraging is the optimal role, so an ideal instructor would be someone who simply says "keep trying" and nothing more. Moreover, as I read your points, it seems to suggest that simply providing libraries or information repositories is a better model than having an expert presence at all. Dan: At the risk of sounding ignorant, that is where I obtained my education so perhaps I am prejudiced in that direction. I never meant to denigrate academics, however. [Arlo] So, let me ask, given your criticisms, what would something better look like? Dan: I didn't realize I was criticizing anything. I'll be more careful in the future. What I meant to do was evaluate the route Phaedrus took as described in ZMM. I thought I was asking a few pertinent questions regarding rote teaching vs the methods he used in his classrooms. Thank you, Dan http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html