Hi, Daniel and all, old friends and new--

I like your carriage, horse, and riders image.   It's concreteness describes the
way I perceive MoQ-described  interactions in general.

Daniel Colonnese wrote:

> <snip>

> The force of change cannot come from
> inside the carriage system, it must come from an organization with a higher
> purpose.  Thus to abandon one’s mechanical nature: one must learn from one
> who knows.  Not just stop in front of the traffic cop who is also just
> automatically obeying a set a preexisting patterns.  Who might just stop for
> a second to give a bump on the head, but no permanent changes.  This
> external force must be guided by something other than more blind mechanical
> decisions, something other than the cloud of waking sleep that envelopes the
> hoarse and carriage.

I don't want to respond rationally, but intuitively.

"The one who knows the relation between the forces of Nature and actions, sees
how some forces of nature work upon other forces of nature, becomes not their
slave."--Bhagavad Gita

What is born of flesh is flesh and what is born of spirit is spirit. Do not be
amazed that I told you, 'You must be born from above. ' The wind blows where it
wills, and you can hear the sound it makes, but you do not know where it comes
from or where it goes; so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit."--John
3:6-8

peace,

maggie hettinger



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