To Joel and The MD
>From Rog
*****DIALOGUE*****
JOEL WROTE:
The solution? Ironically it goes along with this month's theme (I believe)
in the moderated list: "The crux of this crisis involves coming to the
point of realizing, 'I am not my point of view.' I have a point of view,
but that is not what I am."
ROG RESPONDS:
Thank you for the refreshing post on dialogue. When I joined here almost 3
years ago, I was confident that the members wouldn't just know the MOQ, but
that they would LIVE the MOQ. I assumed I would find people at one with
themselves and their environment, dedicated to dynamic intellectual exchange
and above the foolish social posturing prevalent in other web groups. I was
sure I would find a forum of people that understand the dynamics between a
point of view and their "self".
Interestingly, I would add a spin to your quote that another way to look at
it is that we can indeed choose to look at our self and our opinion as
intermixed (after all, what is the self other than collections of patterns of
value). However, here the MOQ solution would be to establish your views
based on intellectual values (truth, consistency, clarity, etc), and even
more so on dynamic versatility. If you wish to view yourself as your ideas,
then at least be as dynamic as possible. Be wary of static traps and old
worn out patterns.
Seek not that which is comfortable, but that which is best, and be aware that
that which is best is itself dynamic.
*****DEPARTURE*****
IMO those that left did so due to seriously damaged karma. In some cases the
karma was bad for years. I applaud their decision, and encourage them to come
back when or if the time is right. Good dialogue is of course the reward.
But, as usual, I could be wrong
Rog
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