Long ago, on the kind of list that i wanted to sign up on, a person posted 
something about consciousness, which happens to be an activity i engage in 
as much as possible, and even like thinking about. So i'm going to jump on 
that thread like its solid ground.


The peculiar thing about consciousness is that it isn't an object, it is the 
subject. therefore it isn't really a good 'object' of study for science. the 
fact of consciousness and what to do with it comes under the realm of 
philosophy, the same with existence. Science doesn't examine 'Existence', it 
examines the things that exist and how they work. Science can't study 
'Consciousness' but it can study the things that people are conscious of and 
how they are conscious of it.

Even with self-reflexive consciousness, our brain can only simulate what it 
thinks consciousness 'is'. Just as our central nervous system sorts and 
filters the 11+ millions of bits of data that our nerves percieve each 
second, our brain has to create a model of consiousness that is 
comprehensible to itself. But that is only a map, not the territory Imagine 
a mirror looking at itself!?

The slippery thing about consciousness is that it is a presupposition that 
we can't get around and still be consistent and sane. You have to be 
conscious to think about consciousness. Otherwise you'll fall into a kind of 
solipism. So the two truths on which all, yes i said it all, sane thoughts 
are based are 'consciousness' and 'existence'.

So there's consciousness (the subjective realm, the realm that percieves) 
and existence (the objective realm, the realm that is percieved). Betwixt 
these two humans possess a volitional consciousness. This consciousness is 
channeled through the human nervous system. On a bit of a tangent, i was 
always curious to find what other people thought of the question:

does the 'classic' correspond to the CNS or the PNS? and the same for the 
'romantic'?


Amilcar

P.S.: Is mentioning other philosophers not allowed? My references for some 
of these thoughts are Ayn Rand and John Searle.

P.S. #2 - i'm not on the MD list, but i'd like to mention Ayn Rand's book 
"The Fountainhead" as a thorough examination of the conflict between the 
social and intellecutal 'aesthetics'. I also agree with the sagacious, but 
nonetheless ignored question "Is it Art" which Rand also deals with.

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dance like nobody's watching and
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