I agree--how do we intercede without this knowledge base?  And why would we 
intercede without a real reason to?  Those reasons would include our 
observation of need, writing samples that show confusions encording, error 
analysis of miscues.

Lori


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From: Joy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
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Date: Sunday, 2007, 23 Of September 15:43
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Phonics

> After reading your comment, I've come to the conclusion that it's probably 
> more important that the teachers know this than the students. 
> 
> ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Knowing about language from a linguistic 
> point of view helps me understand
> why so many children have issues with /j/ and /d/ (they are very close in
> terms of where they are voiced...). But how can you tell an emergent reader
> to get his mouth ready for the sound as a strategy, when you don't address
> sounds. And I certainly don't mean one letter at a time or sound by sound,
> or even to imply that children should not attempt reading before they need
> sounds... Only that in order to respond to children's needs, we must
> understand process and how to support children at varying points of
> difficulty. I am with you, doing sounds is more important than naming them.
> 
> Lori
> 
> 
> On 9/23/07 1:58 PM, "Joy" wrote:
> 
> > You're getting at what I'm talking about. It is more important that the
> > student be able to do the sounds than to know what they are called. If they
> > can read them, and write them, then what's the big deal?
> > 
> > I also have memories of being moved to a lower group and my mom being called
> > into a conference in 3rd grade in Wisconsin when I couldn't read the list of
> > nonsense words (much like the Dibles nonsense word list.) I was trying to 
> > make
> > sense out of what I was reading, and was very confused about what I was
> > supposed to do. I also had to go for tutoring until the tutor realized I was
> > reading circles around everyone else. After that I was in my own group 
> > where I
> > wrote plays for the rest of the class to perform.
> > 
> > Funny, when I was in college they never taught us anything about teaching
> > phonics! (Remember, I was a nontraditional student just a few years ago.)
> >
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