Hi, I have a few thoughts here. One is that you can get the 6 pack of "Should There Be Zoos?" directly from Mondo for $39.00, and if you get other teachers who would like a copy to split it, it could be quite cheap. It is a fabulous piece.
Second, I agree with you about the "bargaining" format. I use "I Wanna Iguana" to actually POINT OUT the difference between bargaining and persuading, and then I try to get the kids to help the kid in the book come up with good reasons. I get mixed results based on the abilities of my kids. IMO, crafting a well-thought out true persuasive argument is a bit out of most 3rd graders developmental reach, but it's helpful to introduce and have kids try it. When I looped 3/4, I felt the 4th graders (many who had trouble with it in 3rd) understood it much better toward mid/end of 4th. Finally, (and I apologize because this is a bit soapboxy)I really think sometimes we expect too much too soon of kids when they are learning a new writing genre. I'm not saying not to try or have high expectations...I just like to remember that they are 8 and have been writers for 3-4 years at best. It helps me keep it real and be patient. Lisa 2/3 IL --- Freida Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please help me to understand persuasive texts and > persuasive writing. I love the book "I Wanna > Iguana" > but it doesn't really seem to be a persuasive text > as > much as a bargaining book format as I see it. I > thought that persuasive text should have reasons for > and against something. I see this book being a boy > begging his mom for the iguana and making promises > rather than trying to persuade her that having the > pet > would be a good idea. > > Admittedly, I've had a hard time teaching my third > graders persuasive writing genre. The most > successful > I've been at it is to give them a topic where they > have to convince/persuade me to do something that > they > have no vested interest in my doing it or not. For > example, their writing on why I should go see a > movie > of their choice produced legitimate reasons for > going > to a movie. Whereas, when they tried to convince me > to have a longer recess, it was full of promises and > begging rather than legitimate reasons to use the > time. > > One book that I'd love to be able to afford that > does > seem to meet the criteria of persuasive text is > Should > There Be Zoos? I just can't see paying $50 or more > for a 32 page book. > > Adrienne Eichenberg provided the following list of > resources (I think this was on the > RealWritingTeacher > listserv): > > Earrings Judith Viorst > > Should There Be Zoos by Tony Stead > > Click, Clack, Moo, Cows that Type by Doreen Cronin > > http://writingfix.com/PictureBookPrompts/Click_Clack_Moo_voice.htm > > Dear Mrs. LaRue by Mark Teague > > http://writingfix.com/PictureBookPrompts/Dear_Mrs_LaRue_voice.htm > > The Secret Knowledge of Grown Ups by David > Wisniewski > > Glasses: Who Needs "Em by Jon Scieszka > > My Name is Jorge, On Both Sides of the River by > Jane > Medina > > Poetry > "One Sister For Sale" by Shel Silverstein > > Magazines, etc. > Time For Kids, Scholastic, Scope (middle grades) > local newspapers, etc., are > great resources for spurring discussion and writing > related to issues kids' > care deeply about > > Teacher Resource Books > Barry Lane's book, Why We Run With Scissors is a > wonderful teacher resource > for teaching persuasive writing. > > http://midmall.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BS&Product_Code=SB029&Category_Code=BLC > > > Nonfiction Writing from the Inside Out by Laura > Robb > > http://www.amazon.com/Nonfiction-Writing-Inside-Laura-Robb/dp/0439513685/sr=1-1/qid=1160248373/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8585904-0022316?ie=UTF8&s=books > > The Write Genre by Lori Jamison Rog and Paul Kropp > > http://www.stenhouse.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=8925 > > Hope these help...and please share any other ideas > you > receive with the list! > > Adrienne > > Others suggested included: > I Wanna Iguana > Don't Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus > Don't Let the Pigeon Stay up late (I think there are > more in the series as > well) > Can I Keep Him? Steven Kellogg > > Freida Hammett > 3rd Grade/Georgia > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - > Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go > to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! 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