Struggling readers, yes, a running record is probably necessary. But a conference, a book discussion and a sharing of ideas, one on one, student to teacher, certainly makes a student feel valued. It does not HAVE TO include reading aloud unless it is deemed necessary for assessment or to cite some text as part of a conversation. leslie In a message dated 3/10/2008 6:53:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree and disagree. It is an overwhelming task, but I have a high school reading teacher with three sections of struggling readers who does conferences and running records with every kid. She makes it seem very natural and it pays off in her instruction, if for no other reason that these entrenched, struggling readers (it is a class for strugglers) who are at first 'too cool' to read out loud to a teacher seem somewhat honored and valued when someone--for the first time in a long time--really values what they are doing. Lori ----- Original message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Date: 2008, 09, Sunday Of March 20:56 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] middle school reading assessment. > Do you think, at the middle school level, that it is necessary to do a > "running record"? When our admin asks for reading levels every 6 weeks or so, the > middle school teacher get their backs up. My feeling is that at the higher > (R and up, I'm talking Fountas and Pinnell here) readers can read a passage > silently and then write a written retelling, followed by some strategy-based > questions. With upwards of 100 students, it is a huge task to do a running > record with each child and I don't really think it is necessary for every > child...maybe just he strugglers. > > Leslie > > > In a message dated 3/9/2008 2:36:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > You sound like you need a miscue analysis sort of assessment. The Goodman's > are the ones to look at, but there are ooodles of folks that have written > books about it. Google it. It is a lengthy test. But you don't use it > with everyone. You use it with the kids that you know are struggling, but > are unsure why. > > I have found it irreplaceable when I want to know EXACTLY what a student is > doing when they read. No IRI or bubble test will tell me this. I know > there are folks against it. But once I know where a kid is truly > struggling, I can send them to the strategy to help fix it. THAT is what > will show up on your numbers test. > > Good teaching is what will raise test scores... > Kim > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, gina nunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I have to chime in and agree about the need for multi-assessments. I have > > had students who scored high on the SRI (scholastic reading inventory), > low > > on the state test, and middle of the road on QRI. I use a spread sheet > > that has all the data side by side so I can surmise who really needs a > > closer looking at. > > > > In regards to Lori's plea for continuing discussion about middle level > > reading assessment I would be thrilled to do that. > > > > Moderators- Do we need to do this off this site? > > > > Our campus is trying to create an RtI model and of course progress > > monitoring is the hurdle for us. QRI, STAR, SRI are all just to identify > > reading levels....they don't give short term "assessment for learning" > > information. > > > > You know I am on this list because I am a believer in MOT and strategy > > work. But I have to be honest...my attempt at using Ellin's strategy > > interview bombed. I just couldn't squeeze it in, and then I had trouble > > using it in a way that I could bring to campus meetings. > > > > > > What I think is at the core of the progress monitoring dilemma is coming > > to agreement on what you want to assess in reading. That then tells you of > > course what you will be assessing on a frequent basis. I have to speak > the > > language of the campus committee but I am trying to avoid target goals like > > will build vocabulary....who decides that list? > > > > I'll stop before I babble. Again I'd like to have this ongoing > > conversation. Should we find another place to do it? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > _______________________________________________ > > Mosaic mailing list > > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > > > -- > Kim > ------- > Kimberlee Hannan > Department Chair, ELA > Sequoia Middle School > Fresno, California 93702 > > The best teachers teach from the heart, not from the book. ~Author Unknown > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! 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