Oh Renee, I'm really sorry to hear about your pink slip.
Are you in California?
Mary Ann
Cy-Fair ISD
Houston, TX
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From: "Renee" <phoenix...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency
If I had tenure, I would do a lot of things.
Renee .... waving another pink slip in the air.....
On Mar 14, 2010, at 11:17 AM, jan sanders wrote:
Renee, if you had the tenure, you could send back an email stating the
fact about the lack of problem solving and that you were wondering what
was going to be used to fill in that void.
For anyone not familiar with Saxon -they literally tell the student what
to do. I piloted in 4th grade and the directions would tell the
student what to do -no thinking there... One day (long division) the
directions said use the LSD method on this problem. I had to laugh!
LSD!!!!!! Of course LSD was an acronym for procedures used in the
algorithm. Anyone remember Daddy, Mother, Sister, Brother? Divide,
Multiply, Subtract, Bring down.
Saxon is a very rote program.
Jan
"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning
how to dance in the rain." BJ Gallagher
From: phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:17:40 -0800
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency
I agree with Nancy. I am so sick and tired of the "supported by
research" claim that I could scream. One of my principals sent out an
email a few weeks ago with a link and an article that showed research
about student achievement with Saxon math. ick. So I read it, and it
referred basically to test scores AND also mentioned that Saxon math
did not do well in problem-solving, which was better addressed with a
different program that was studied. I think it was three or four math
programs that were compared, and maybe it was Everyday Math that was
better at problem-solving, but please don't quote me. Anyway, the
point is that it truly is like a game of telephone. Perfect analogy,
Nancy.
Renee
On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:22 AM, creeche...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 3/10/2010 11:59:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
creeche...@aol.com writes:
Could you give me a reference for that research?
So I'm behind on email, but don't see a response. I find often that
something that is supposedly "supported by lots of research," is
kind of like the
telephone game. Everyone has heard that there is, but no one quite can
pinpoint it. Just the fact that people say there is research makes
it so? I
agree with Maureen. I have seen a lot of evidence that often
students who read
slowly and methodically with prosidy, rereading and thinking
carefully,
are way better at comprehension than those who are trying to beat
the egg
timer.
Nancy
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