Thanks for all of your thoughts! I have some direction to go now! Megan Dorsay District Reading Specialist Skokie District 73.5 8000 E. Prairie Rd. Skokie, IL 60076 McCracken Middle School 847-676-8204 Middleton Elementary 847-676-8035 mdor...@sd735.org ________________________________________ From: mosaic-bounces+mdorsay=sd735....@literacyworkshop.org [mosaic-bounces+mdorsay=sd735....@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Renee [phoenix...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:25 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Processing Question
I don't think I would worry about any student "remembering the silent e rule" or the "when two vowels go walking" rule. That's not reading; that's just mimicking rules. How much reading of "easier" texts does this student do? That, to me, would be the best way to increase fluency (unless, of course, fluency is being measure by speed/accuracy only in a cold reading with possible above ZPD level text... in that case.... well, don't get me started). Can the student recognize/read rhyming words when presented in a simple poem? That would be more telling than being able to recognize them when put side by side in front of her. Is she kinesthetic? Visual? Do pictures help her understand text? Off the top of my head, if a student is THAT inconsistent, then it seems like there may be something else going on, some kind of disability. I personally would not rely on a phonics assessment, especially one that required decoding words in isolation, and even more especially one that requires decoding nonsense words. Comprehension is about context and connection and being able to retell main parts of a story. Decoding out of context is just barking, in my opinion. Renee On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Sunshine Barker wrote: > I would do the CORE phonics assessment. You should assess her decoding > words > in isolation along with decoding nonsense words. Is there dyslexia in > the > family? I would explore dyslexia as a possibility. > > > -- > Sunshine Barker > Reading Teacher > Hoffmann Lane Elementary > > > > On 4/9/12 1:37 PM, "Megan Dorsay" <mdor...@sd735.org> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> I was asked to test a 2nd grader who has been in our District since >> Kindergarten. Her Benchmarking scores (MAP and Aimsweb) red-flagged >> her for >> Intervention. The teacher agreed. Fluency and comprehension are low >> but she is >> wildly inconsistent day to day. >> She is getting the Horizons Intervention program 4x/week plus an >> extra dose of >> guided reading one-on-one 4x/week. She is not making appropriate >> progress >> according to progress monitoring and the running records, and oral >> and visual >> assessments of the teachers. She is totally inconsistent in her >> knowledge. One >> day, she reads well and answers questions. The next day, she cannot >> remember >> the "silent e" rule or the "When two vowels go walking..." or she >> will have >> trouble recognizing rhyming words, even when they are placed in a row >> in front >> of her. >> The teacher and Interventionist are stumped. (Me too!) >> Does anyone have any thoughts on strategies we could use or any >> professional >> books I could buy that would give us strategies to help her simple >> recall? >> Also, any information on processing issues would be so helpful as >> well. I >> don't have a huge background in that area. >> Thank you!! >> Megan Dorsay >> District Reading Specialist >> Skokie District 73.5 >> 8000 E. Prairie Rd. >> Skokie, IL 60076 >> McCracken Middle School >> 847-676-8204 >> Middleton Elementary >> 847-676-8035 >> mdor...@sd735.org >> ________________________________________ >> From: mosaic-bounces+mdorsay=sd735....@literacyworkshop.org >> [mosaic-bounces+mdorsay=sd735....@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of >> Sally >> Thomas [sally.thom...@verizon.net] >> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:30 PM >> To: mosaic listserve >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] School wide reading. >> >> I HIGHLY recommend the book Day to Day Assessment in the reading >> Workshop; Making informed Instructional Decision in Grades 3 - 6. By >> Sibberson and Szymusiak. Honestly I taught a reading workshop >> classroom for >> years grades 5 - 6. Much of my doctoral research had to do with >> intrinsic >> motivation and also assessment (the good kind ) as integral to >> intrinsic >> motivation. This book is absolutely excellent in describinb the >> thinking >> and classroom practices that least to highly engaged and effective >> reading - >> the independent reading so critical along with some of the other >> balanced >> literacy needed - to complete the whole!!! Please please please >> check it >> out. It works for primary and middle school, probably hgih school if >> you >> have the flexible mindset that can see the underlying assumptions of >> the >> practices and figure out how to make them work at the different >> levels. >> >> Sally thomas >> >> >> On 4/8/12 4:42 PM, "Jennifer Olimpieri" <ojen...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi. I work in a k-5 school as a reading consultant. We currently >>> have a >>> monthly calendar that kids turn in to get a small prize. At the end >>> of the >>> year the get recognized, so on and so forth. However, the program is >>> old and >>> not very enticing. The younger ones are usually the ones turning in >>> their >>> calendars but mostly it is ineffective anymore. I would like to >>> revitalize a >>> school wide reading program. Does anyone have fresh and exciting >>> ideas that >>> is >>> easily recordable but effective? 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