Thank you Lisa!!!! This is an excellent meaningful approach to the issue! Sally On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Roy, Lisa wrote:
> And if the emphasis is on "free assessments" combined with quality > (validity), the reading assessments at the Teachers College Reading and > Writing Project http://readingandwritingproject.com/resources/assessments.html > are excellent and use a running record and conversation to lead to a Fountas > and Pinnell reading level which can then used to find a range of lexile > levels which could be appropriate for a child. I say 'could' because the > lexile levels are more of a mathematical measurement of sentence length and > vocabulary, while the F & P levels include issues of text complexity such as > layout, content, theme... which can greatly impact a child's ability to > access a text, which is why I prefer them. > > Lisa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of > mosaic-requ...@literacyworkshop.org > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:00 PM > To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > Subject: Mosaic Digest, Vol 83, Issue 9 > > Send Mosaic mailing list submissions to > mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/listinfo/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mosaic-requ...@literacyworkshop.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mosaic-ow...@literacyworkshop.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of Mosaic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lexile Measure (evelia cadet) > 2. Re: Lexile Measure (Diana Rea) > 3. Re: Lexile Measure (evelia cadet) > 4. Re: Lexile Measure (Tracy Montoya) > 5. Re: Lexile Measure (Ken & Jenni Yingling) > 6. Re: Lexile Measure (Ann Walker) > 7. Re: Lexile Measure (Palmer, Jennifer) > 8. Re: Lexile Measure (evelia cadet) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:00:42 -0500 > From: evelia cadet <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: <blu401-eas5180e30e935c7a07adf0875aa...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My question was related to Jennifer's comment below. How do I perform the > informal comprehension check? Pardon my ignorance, I am still a new teacher. > Thank you, > > Evelia > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:04 AM, "Palmer, Jennifer" <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> > wrote: > >> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on children. >> Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing lexiles... Do an >> informal comprehension check and you are good to go. Less reliable but >> likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to determine the >>> Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>> >>> Evelia >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >>> rg >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:50:45 -0500 > From: "Diana Rea" <d...@dqud300.perry.k12.il.us> > To: "'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group'" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: <000001ce8326$ed39ff00$c7adfd00$@dqud300.perry.k12.il.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My K-12 district has been looking into switching to NWEA Measure of Academic > Progress for our universal screener. The only drawback we see is our current > universal screener (K-8 AIMSweb, which provides Lexile) has progress monitor > capabilities and MAP doesn't for RtI. What does your district use to progress > monitor tier 2 and 3 students? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of > Monique Temple > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:31 AM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > > I have worked in several districts that all have used NWEA Measures of > Academic Progress. If you are not familiar with this assessment you should > look into it. We give it to our students 3 times a year and it provides lots > of data to drive your instruction including lexile numbers. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:19 AM, bummyb...@aol.com wrote: > >> Our district found the SRI not to be reliable for lexile scores. We >> used > it for 2 years and we said do not waste our money or time. We are now doing > what you suggested and using books that we are confident of the lexile level. >> >> Shannon Bumgarner >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Palmer, Jennifer <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >> Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 8:04 am >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure >> >> >> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on >> children. Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing >> lexiles... Do an informal comprehension check and you are good to go. >> Less reliable but likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to >>> determine the >> Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>> >>> Evelia >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >>> rg >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:56:17 -0500 > From: evelia cadet <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: <blu403-eas374141f58d259b96b198e52aa...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > We use ISIP from istation. Has anyone heard of it? Any opinions? > > Evelia > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:53 PM, "Diana Rea" <d...@dqud300.perry.k12.il.us> wrote: > >> My K-12 district has been looking into switching to NWEA Measure of >> Academic Progress for our universal screener. The only drawback we see >> is our current universal screener (K-8 AIMSweb, which provides Lexile) >> has progress monitor capabilities and MAP doesn't for RtI. What does >> your district use to progress monitor tier 2 and 3 students? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of >> Monique Temple >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:31 AM >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure >> >> I have worked in several districts that all have used NWEA Measures of >> Academic Progress. If you are not familiar with this assessment you >> should look into it. We give it to our students 3 times a year and it >> provides lots of data to drive your instruction including lexile numbers. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:19 AM, bummyb...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Our district found the SRI not to be reliable for lexile scores. We >>> used >> it for 2 years and we said do not waste our money or time. We are now >> doing what you suggested and using books that we are confident of the >> lexile level. >>> >>> Shannon Bumgarner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Palmer, Jennifer <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >>> <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >>> Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 8:04 am >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure >>> >>> >>> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >>> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on >>> children. Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing >>> lexiles... Do an informal comprehension check and you are good to go. >>> Less reliable but likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" >>> <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to >>>> determine the >>> Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>>> >>>> Evelia >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop. >>>> o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >>> r >>> g >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >>> r >>> g >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tracy Montoya <tracy...@yahoo.com> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: > <1374099327.70296.yahoomail...@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > We use the SRI at?my school, but if it's not administered with the kids buy > in, you won't get accurate scores. Kids that rush through the SRI will not > score well at all. > I feel the same way about the ISIP from istation. You have to get the kids > buy in to want to do their best, because if they blow it off, the data won't > be valid. > > > ________________________________ > From: evelia cadet <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > > > We use ISIP from istation. Has anyone heard of it? Any opinions? > > Evelia > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:53 PM, "Diana Rea" <d...@dqud300.perry.k12.il.us> wrote: > >> My K-12 district has been looking into switching to NWEA Measure of Academic >> Progress for our universal screener. The only drawback we see is our current >> universal screener (K-8 AIMSweb, which provides Lexile) has progress monitor >> capabilities and MAP doesn't for RtI. What does your district use to >> progress monitor tier 2 and 3 students? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of >> Monique Temple >> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:31 AM >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure >> >> I have worked in several districts that all have used NWEA Measures of >> Academic Progress.? If you are not familiar with this assessment you should >> look into it.? We give it to our students 3 times a year and it provides >> lots of data to drive your instruction including lexile numbers. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:19 AM, bummyb...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Our district found the SRI not to be reliable for lexile scores.? We used >> it for 2 years and we said do not waste our money or time.? We are now doing >> what you suggested and using books that we are confident of the lexile >> level.? >>> >>> Shannon Bumgarner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Palmer, Jennifer <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >>> <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >>> Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 8:04 am >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure >>> >>> >>> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >>> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on >>> children. Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing >>> lexiles... Do an informal comprehension check and you are good to go. >>> Less reliable but likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to >>>> determine the >>> Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>>> >>>> Evelia >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >>> g >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >>> g >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:38:56 -0500 > From: "Ken & Jenni Yingling" <yingli...@frontiernet.net> > To: "'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group'" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: <8303235EB405496CBD364B1342EF06C3@DC424PC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > We use both AIMSWeb and MAPS. AIMSWeb is our universal screener because it > has the progress monitoring component. We use MAPS to drive our class > instruction during small group time. > Jenni > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Rea > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:50 PM > To: 'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group' > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > > My K-12 district has been looking into switching to NWEA Measure of Academic > Progress for our universal screener. The only drawback we see is our current > universal screener (K-8 AIMSweb, which provides Lexile) has progress monitor > capabilities and MAP doesn't for RtI. What does your district use to > progress monitor tier 2 and 3 students? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:44:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ann Walker <awalk...@yahoo.com> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: > <1374115484.4980.yahoomail...@web160105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > At the middle school in my district we are making the move to EasyCBM for our > universal screener.? It has progress monitoring.? If a teacher would like to > use EasyCBM for no more than 200 students she can use the Lite version for > free.? The entire?district continues to use MAP for achievement testing. > ? > Ann Walker > Reading Specialist > Illinois? > > ________________________________ > From: Diana Rea <d...@dqud300.perry.k12.il.us> > To: 'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group' > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > > > My K-12 district has been looking into switching to NWEA Measure of Academic > Progress for our universal screener. The only drawback we see is our current > universal screener (K-8 AIMSweb, which provides Lexile) has progress monitor > capabilities and MAP doesn't for RtI. What does your district use to > progress monitor tier 2 and 3 students? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of > Monique Temple > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:31 AM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > > I have worked in several districts that all have used NWEA Measures of > Academic Progress.? If you are not familiar with this assessment you should > look into it.? We give it to our students 3 times a year and it provides > lots of data to drive your instruction including lexile numbers. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:19 AM, bummyb...@aol.com wrote: > >> Our district found the SRI not to be reliable for lexile scores.? We used > it for 2 years and we said do not waste our money or time.? We are now doing > what you suggested and using books that we are confident of the lexile > level.? >> >> Shannon Bumgarner >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Palmer, Jennifer <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >> Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 8:04 am >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure >> >> >> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on >> children. Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing >> lexiles... Do an informal comprehension check and you are good to go. >> Less reliable but likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to >>> determine the >> Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>> >>> Evelia >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.o >>> rg >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or >> g >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:33:54 +0000 > From: "Palmer, Jennifer" <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: > > <mailman.2.1374174002.29247.mosaic_literacyworkshop....@literacyworkshop.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This is another case of needing to clarify terminology. > Reliable- a test given that's likely to get the same score each time it's > given. > Validity- the test measures what it's supposed to measure in this case > reading ability. > I don't want to oversimplify this, but rather clarify my earlier point. > > It's a case of what are you using the testing for? Are you needing a lexile > to match kids to books? If so, find a lexile by informally trying books of > different lexiles and seeing what the child comprehends. It's valid because > it more closely matches a real reading task required in a classroom. It's not > as reliable because of the informal nature of it--- you and I might get > different results with the same child and the same book. > > In a situation where I need to measure student growth over time-- I'd want to > use the SRI, or Fountas and Pinnell benchmark assessments-- something likely > to be reliable. To inform my day to day instruction, my assessment method can > be a bit less reliable, but I want it to have as high a validity as possible. > > Nothing wrong with data crunching ... There is an audience that needs the > data from standardized tests--and as a teacher i can gain info from that type > of test too--but everyone needs to understand the benefits and limitations of > that kind of data.(and that has led to deep misuses of standardized tests.) > And when the data crunch includes teacher observation data... The level of > validity is likely to be higher and the data much more useful to inform day > to day instruction . > > How does one check comprehension informally? Ask a child what the passage or > book is about. They should be giving you much more than is on the fly leaf. > If they can tell you characters setting problem and solution there's a good > beginning understanding. If they can infer theme, or critique authors craft, > there's likely a more solid understanding . > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:58 AM, "Renee G" <share2lear...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Actually, I would say that Jennifer's option of having kids read passages >> from the actual books is MORE reliable, since it is more real and authentic. >> Unless you are hung up on data crunching, of course. >> >> But whenever possible I am for putting the "data gathering" back into the >> hands and minds of teachers. >> >> Renee >> >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:01 AM, Palmer, Jennifer wrote: >> >>> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >>> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on children. >>> Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing lexiles... Do an >>> informal comprehension check and you are good to go. Less reliable but >>> likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to determine the >>>> Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>>> >>>> Evelia\ >> >> >> Deep down we must have real affection for each other, a clear realization or >> recognition of our shared human status. At the same time, we must openly >> accept all ideologies and systems as a means of solving humanity's problems. >> One country, one nation, one ideology, one system is not sufficient. >> ~ The Dalai Lama >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:54:45 -0500 > From: evelia cadet <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Lexile Measure > Message-ID: <blu402-eas127ce7b44cf80e5ea10dbb8aa...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks everyone for your responses. Thank you for the clarification Jennifer. > I love this group! > > Evelia > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:35 AM, "Palmer, Jennifer" <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org> > wrote: > >> This is another case of needing to clarify terminology. >> Reliable- a test given that's likely to get the same score each time it's >> given. >> Validity- the test measures what it's supposed to measure in this case >> reading ability. >> I don't want to oversimplify this, but rather clarify my earlier point. >> >> It's a case of what are you using the testing for? Are you needing a lexile >> to match kids to books? If so, find a lexile by informally trying books of >> different lexiles and seeing what the child comprehends. It's valid because >> it more closely matches a real reading task required in a classroom. It's >> not as reliable because of the informal nature of it--- you and I might get >> different results with the same child and the same book. >> >> In a situation where I need to measure student growth over time-- I'd want >> to use the SRI, or Fountas and Pinnell benchmark assessments-- something >> likely to be reliable. To inform my day to day instruction, my assessment >> method can be a bit less reliable, but I want it to have as high a validity >> as possible. >> >> Nothing wrong with data crunching ... There is an audience that needs the >> data from standardized tests--and as a teacher i can gain info from that >> type of test too--but everyone needs to understand the benefits and >> limitations of that kind of data.(and that has led to deep misuses of >> standardized tests.) And when the data crunch includes teacher observation >> data... The level of validity is likely to be higher and the data much more >> useful to inform day to day instruction . >> >> How does one check comprehension informally? Ask a child what the passage or >> book is about. They should be giving you much more than is on the fly leaf. >> If they can tell you characters setting problem and solution there's a good >> beginning understanding. If they can infer theme, or critique authors craft, >> there's likely a more solid understanding . >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:58 AM, "Renee G" <share2lear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Actually, I would say that Jennifer's option of having kids read passages >>> from the actual books is MORE reliable, since it is more real and >>> authentic. Unless you are hung up on data crunching, of course. >>> >>> But whenever possible I am for putting the "data gathering" back into the >>> hands and minds of teachers. >>> >>> Renee >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:01 AM, Palmer, Jennifer wrote: >>> >>>> The SRI costs money--but is the most reliable way to get a lexile.The >>>> cheapest thing to do is to test books you know the lexile of on children. >>>> Ask them to read a passage from several books of differing lexiles... Do >>>> an informal comprehension check and you are good to go. Less reliable but >>>> likely more valid to inform classroom instruction... >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:17 PM, "evelia cadet" <cadeteve...@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are there any free assessments out there that I could use to determine >>>>> the Lexile reading level of my students? Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Evelia\ >>> >>> >>> Deep down we must have real affection for each other, a clear realization >>> or recognition of our shared human status. At the same time, we must >>> openly accept all ideologies and systems as a means of solving humanity's >>> problems. 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