Thanks Phillipp for the clarification. On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Philipp Koehn <p...@jhu.edu> wrote:
> Hi, > > the sentence > > "Translation options are collected from one table, and additional > options are collected from the other tables." > > could be rewritten as > > "Translation options are generated from each table independently." > > but I am not sure, if this is really clearer. > > -phi > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Rajen Chatterjee < > rajen.k.chatter...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Anoop, for the question. I too have the same doubt as yours. >> >> So to repeate, your question was: >> "With *either* option, all the constituent phrases of a target >> hypothesis come from a single table, but different hypothesis can use >> different tables. Each hypothesis is scored using one table only. I did not >> understand the* " additional options are collected from the other >> tables" *bit in the documentation. " >> >> So, if each hypothesis is scored using a single table then why it is said >> that "additional options are collected from other tables". It sounds >> somewhat contradicting or maybe I am missing something. >> >> Please let us know if anybody knows what it mean. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Anoop (അനൂപ്) < >> anoop.kunchukut...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your inputs. I plan to compare these methods, and will share >>> the results on the group. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Anoop >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Michael Denkowski < >>> michael.j.denkow...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Anoop, >>>> >>>> Confirming that your reading of "union" is in fact how it works. If >>>> you want each phrase to be scored by all tables without having to worry >>>> about making sure every phrase is in every table, I you can use >>>> PhraseDictionaryGroup with default-average-others=true. This multiplies >>>> the size of the phrase feature set by the number of models, so I recommend >>>> running mer-moses.pl with --batch-mira. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Philipp Koehn <p...@jhu.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> that sounds right. >>>>> >>>>> The "union" option is fairly new, developed by Michael Denkowski. >>>>> I am not aware of any empirical study of the different methods, >>>>> so I'd be curious to see what you find. >>>>> >>>>> -phi >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:35 AM, Anoop (അനൂപ്) < >>>>> anoop.kunchukut...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to understand the multiple decoding paths feature in >>>>>> Moses. >>>>>> >>>>>> The documentation ( >>>>>> http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Advanced.Models#ntoc7) describes 3 >>>>>> methods: both, either and union >>>>>> >>>>>> The following is my understanding of the options. Please let me know >>>>>> if it is correct: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - With *both* option, the constituent phrases of the target >>>>>> hypothesis come from both tables (since they are shared) and are >>>>>> scored >>>>>> with both the tables. >>>>>> - With *either* option, all the constituent phrases of a target >>>>>> hypothesis come from a single table, but different hypothesis can use >>>>>> different tables. Each hypothesis is scored using one table only. I >>>>>> did not >>>>>> understand the " additional options are collected from the other >>>>>> tables" >>>>>> bit in the documentation. >>>>>> - With *union* option, the constituent phrases of a target >>>>>> hypothesis come from different tables and are scored using scores >>>>>> from all >>>>>> the tables. Use 0 if the option doesn't appear in some table, unless >>>>>> the >>>>>> *default-average-others=true* option is used. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Anoop. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> I claim to be a simple individual liable to err like any other fellow >>>>>> mortal. I own, however, that I have humility enough to confess my errors >>>>>> and to retrace my steps. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://flightsofthought.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moses-support mailing list >>>>>> Moses-support@mit.edu >>>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moses-support mailing list >>>>> Moses-support@mit.edu >>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I claim to be a simple individual liable to err like any other fellow >>> mortal. I own, however, that I have humility enough to confess my errors >>> and to retrace my steps. >>> >>> http://flightsofthought.blogspot.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moses-support mailing list >>> Moses-support@mit.edu >>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -Regards, >> Rajen Chatterjee. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moses-support mailing list >> Moses-support@mit.edu >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >> >> > -- -Regards, Rajen Chatterjee.
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