Hello Vishal, Yes, that's what pre-ordering means. Specifically it means re-ordering the source side.
Graham On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Vishal Goyal(विशाल गोयल) < vishal....@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Graham, > Greetings. > Please clarify that Pre-Ordering in your reply means, that making the word > order of both Source Language Sentences and Target Language Sentences > similar in Source-Target Language Pair before going for training so that it > becomes similar to the scenario of closely related language Pair. > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Graham Neubig <neu...@is.naist.jp> > wrote: > >> Hi Vito, >> >> English-Japanese and Japanese-English translation are very difficult due >> to the grammatical differences between the languages. >> >> You have a couple options to overcome this problem: >> 1) If you want to use phrase-based Moses, you will have to perform some >> variety of pre-ordering, in which you rearrange the words in the source >> sentence before training/testing. >> 2) You can use a syntax-based system, either using the functionality in >> Moses (http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.SyntaxTutorial), or using >> another decoder specifically designed for syntax-based MT such as my >> Travatar decoder (http://www.phontron.com/travatar/). I have released >> the setup for training our strongest Japanese-English and English-Japanese >> systems here: https://github.com/neubig/wat2014 >> >> Regarding the different types of characters, I would leave them as-is. It >> is possible to perform normalization, which will help in a limited number >> of cases, but if you're just starting out this is really the least of your >> problems. >> >> Graham >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Vito Mandorino < >> vito.mandor...@linguacustodia.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> does anyone have ever done experiments for English-Japanese and >>> Japanese-English translation? Do you know about useful ressources for this >>> language pair, or some specific gotchas one should be aware of? >>> >>> More specifically, what is the best policy for dealing with alphabets? >>> Do you think it is a good idea to keep different alphabets (Kanji, >>> Hiragana, Katakana, ...) in the corpus, or should one try to convert Kanji >>> into one of the other alphabets? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Vito Mandorino >>> >>> -- >>> *M**. Vito MANDORINO -- Chief Scientist* >>> >>> >>> [image: Description : Description : lingua_custodia_final full logo] >>> >>> *The Translation Trustee* >>> >>> *1, Place Charles de Gaulle, **78180 Montigny-le-Bretonneux* >>> >>> *Tel : +33 1 30 44 04 23 Mobile : +33 6 84 65 68 89 >>> <%2B33%206%2084%2065%2068%2089>* >>> >>> *Email :* *vito.mandor...@linguacustodia.com >>> <massinissa.ah...@linguacustodia.com>* >>> >>> *Website :* >>> *www.linguacustodia.finance <http://www.linguacustodia.com/>* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moses-support mailing list >>> Moses-support@mit.edu >>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moses-support mailing list >> Moses-support@mit.edu >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >> >> > > > -- > *Regards,* > Vishal Goyal, > Ph.D., M.Tech., MCA, M.C.S.D. > Associate Professor(Stage IV), > Department of Computer Science, > Punjabi University Patiala-147002. > > > *Machine Translation Systems:* > [*Online Hindi to Punjabi Machine Translation Tool -* > http://h2p.learnpunjabi.org ] > [*Statistical Approach Based Hindi to Punjabi Machine Translation System * > - http://statmt.org/~vishal/hp/index.cgi > - http://tdil-dc.in/hi2pu/index.cgi > ] > *Online Journal: [Research Cell: An International Journal of Engineering > Sciences, http://ijoes.vidyapublications.com > <http://ijoes.vidyapublications.com>]* > *Book: A Simplified Approach to Data Structures, Shroff Publications and > Distributors* > http://www.shroffpublishers.com/detail.aspx?title=6163 >
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