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1. Re: startup guide for new users (Colin Law)
2. Re: startup guide for new users ([email protected])
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:49:53 +0100
From: Colin Law <[email protected]>
To: Motion discussion list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] startup guide for new users
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On 2 August 2018 at 16:45, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> MrDave,
>
> I'd recommend adding a simple description of what exactly Motion does, and
> maybe add some screen shots. I've researched this for at least ten hours
> and up until 5 minutes ago, I thought Motion had a UI that displayed the
> camera views and settings.
>
You still haven't given us a link to the documentation you have been
looking at, so it is difficult to comment.
Screen shots don't make that much sense for a utility that does not have a
gui.
Colin
>
> Another recommendation is to make the acronyms links that explain what the
> acronym is. Every time I come across one I don't know, usually about once
> per sentence, I have to leave the page, search, sort through the noise, and
> figure out what the acronym means specific to linux video. Usually, during
> that process, I have to look up ten more acronyms and by the time I've done
> that, whatever momentum I got in understanding Motion gets lost and the
> cycle begins again. This is common to ALL linux related documentation. I
> know that using acronyms saves time but it basically forces users to learn
> a new language just to get a base understanding. I've tried to turn all of
> my friends onto linux but the community practice of using acronyms
> constantly has chased all but one of them off.
>
> If the guide was laid out in a step by step process that mirrors the
> normal workflow of setup and use, it would be much easier to understand.
> The descriptions are all really well written but linking it all together
> into a working process order is really difficult.
>
>
> Once I get more caught up with other projects, I'll keep digging deeper
> but at this point, the learning curve has become a brick wall.
>
> Thanks again for your time! I'm sure Motion will be awesome when I become
> smart enough to use it.
>
> 1. Aug 2018 17:23 by [email protected]:
>
>
> I was hoping you could reference an actual link you were reading. I
> included the Motion home page below my response which has a link to the
> documentation (mainly copied from the old wiki of "getting started").
>
> It starts off with a general description of setting up the cameras and
> then goes into the various configuration options. The general description
> was written specifically for those that have zero coding knowledge. If
> there are specific items in it that are not clear, require specialized
> knowledge or are missing, I'd be interested in know what they are so that
> it can be expanded or rewritten.
>
> This is the exact link that is on the documentation page.
>
> https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html
>
>
> On 8/1/2018 2:22 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>
> On 1 August 2018 at 17:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure that it's not gibberish at all to someone with more knowledge
>> but it's nearly all way over my head, and to my friends, I'm the computer
>> guru...lol
>>
>> To be completely honest, it's all written at a level that seems to assume
>> some pretty significant linux and coding knowledge. I did figure out that
>> setup is done by editing the config file, but after messing with it for
>> hours, all I got it to do it turn on the led next to my webcam. I can't
>> even get the UI to run.
>>
>
> Motion doesn't have a UI. What exactly are you trying to run?
>
> Colin
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:58:39 +0200 (CEST)
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] startup guide for new users
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MotionEye was what I was looking at.? I thought it was simply an OS that had
Motion built in, like how Ubuntu Studio comes with Ardour.
I've been looking at the main github link that MrDave sent.? It's just over my
head.
2. Aug 2018 08:49 by [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>:
> On 2 August 2018 at 16:45, <> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote:
>
>>
>> MrDave,
>>
>> I'd recommend adding a simple description of what exactly Motion does, and
>> maybe add some screen shots.? I've researched this for at least ten hours
>> and up until 5 minutes ago, I thought Motion had a UI that displayed the
>> camera views and settings.?
>>
>
> You still haven't given us a link to the documentation you have been looking
> at, so it is difficult to comment.> Screen shots don't make that much sense
> for a utility that does not have a gui.
> Colin
>
> ?
>>
>> Another recommendation is to make the acronyms links that explain what the
>> acronym is.? Every time I come across one I don't know, usually about once
>> per sentence, I have to leave the page, search, sort through the noise, and
>> figure out what the acronym means specific to linux video.? Usually, during
>> that process, I have to look up ten more acronyms and by the time I've done
>> that, whatever momentum I got in understanding Motion gets lost and the
>> cycle begins again.? This is common to ALL linux related documentation.? I
>> know that using acronyms saves time but it basically forces users to learn a
>> new language just to get a base understanding.? I've tried to turn all of my
>> friends onto linux but the community practice of using acronyms constantly
>> has chased all but one of them off.
>>
>> If the guide was laid out in a step by step process that mirrors the normal
>> workflow of setup and use, it would be much easier to understand.? The
>> descriptions are all really well written but linking it all together into a
>> working process order is really difficult.
>>
>>
>> Once I get more caught up with other projects, I'll keep digging deeper but
>> at this point, the learning curve has become a brick wall.
>>
>> Thanks again for your time!? I'm sure Motion will be awesome when I become
>> smart enough to use it.
>>
>> 1. Aug 2018 17:23 by >> [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> :
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I was hoping you could reference an actual link you were reading.? I
>>> included the Motion home page below my response which has a link to
>>> the documentation (mainly copied from the old wiki of? "getting
>>> started").?
>>>
>>>
>>> It starts off with a general description of setting up the cameras and
>>> then goes into the various configuration options.? The general
>>> description was written specifically for those that have zero coding
>>> knowledge.? If there are specific items in it that are not clear,
>>> require specialized knowledge or are missing, I'd be interested in
>>> know what they are so that? it? can be expanded or rewritten.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the exact link that is on the documentation page.
>>>
>>> https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html
>>> <https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> On 8/1/2018 2:22 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1 August 2018 at 17:55,
>>>> <>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'm sure that it's not gibberish at
>>>>> all to someone with more knowledge but it's nearly all way
>>>>> over my head, and to my friends, I'm the computer
>>>>> guru...lol
>>>>>
>>>>> To be completely honest, it's all written at a level
>>>>> that seems to assume some pretty significant linux and
>>>>> coding knowledge.? I did figure out that setup is done
>>>>> by editing the config file, but after messing with it
>>>>> for hours, all I got it to do it turn on the led next to
>>>>> my webcam.? I can't even get the UI to run.>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> Motion doesn't have a UI.? What exactly
>>>> are you trying to run?
>>>> >>>> >>>> ?
>>>> >>>> >>>> Colin
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
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