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Today's Topics:
1. Re: motion compatible PoE+ cameras? (Tony Ross)
2. Re: motion compatible PoE+ cameras? (MrDave)
3. Re: motion compatible PoE+ cameras? (Mil?n Pataki)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 10:05:51 -0800
From: Tony Ross <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion compatible PoE+ cameras?
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Thank you very much for that excellent reply. Since it supports RTSP, I
think I'll take a chance on http://amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4PLZ9M/ as
it includes the PoE injector, unless anyone sees a
motion-contraindication for the item.
On 12/15/18 9:19 PM, MrDave wrote:
> It is probably a shorter list to indicate which do NOT work.? The
> cameras that have their own proprietary streaming and subscription
> services may not work.
>
> Look for the streaming protocols the camera supports and find ones
> that list RTSP.? May also want to do a internet search for the RTSP
> connection string for that camera just in case the documentation
> provided with the camera does not provide it.? (It SHOULD but
> occasionally does not).? There are 100's if not 1,000's of these
> cameras on Amazon and Aliexpress.
>
> Note that since these cameras usually use H264 for compression of the
> stream, the computer running Motion may need to be a more powerful to
> decompress and process the images
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/15/2018 9:52 PM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> What PoE+ cameras will work with motion, please? I've been using some
>> Logitech USB cameras for the past half-decade and would like to
>> upgrade to some IP PoE+ cameras.
>>
>> Thank you for your replies.
>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:14:05 -0700
From: MrDave <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion compatible PoE+ cameras?
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If the link is correct, that seems to be a very expensive PTZ camera
which is a different situation.? The typical POE camera I think most
people are using is fixed location and focus.? If you are looking for a
PTZ there is a lot of custom scripting required.
While Motion version 4.2.1 allows for setting up a set of custom scripts
to execute via the manual tracking type, it is still pretty basic.?
Prior Motion versions only did very specific PTZ models.
To get the PTZ to work (in order to justify the cost of that camera),
you will need to get from the company the url commands that invoke the
movement and zoom.? Some manufacturers have been reported to refuse to
release those so you'd have to wireshark the network to see them and
reverse engineer a script.? I also noted that it includes audio which
Motion does not support. (It is frequently illegal to just record audio
without you being actively listening)
Personally, I use the fixed focus/location ones from Aliexpress (5MP poe
is ~$45USD). Perhaps others with a PTZ can comment on their experiences.
Dave
On 12/16/18 11:05 AM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
> Thank you very much for that excellent reply. Since it supports RTSP,
> I think I'll take a chance on http://amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4PLZ9M/
> as it includes the PoE injector, unless anyone sees a
> motion-contraindication for the item.
>
> On 12/15/18 9:19 PM, MrDave wrote:
>> It is probably a shorter list to indicate which do NOT work.? The
>> cameras that have their own proprietary streaming and subscription
>> services may not work.
>>
>> Look for the streaming protocols the camera supports and find ones
>> that list RTSP.? May also want to do a internet search for the RTSP
>> connection string for that camera just in case the documentation
>> provided with the camera does not provide it.? (It SHOULD but
>> occasionally does not).? There are 100's if not 1,000's of these
>> cameras on Amazon and Aliexpress.
>>
>> Note that since these cameras usually use H264 for compression of the
>> stream, the computer running Motion may need to be a more powerful to
>> decompress and process the images
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 12/15/2018 9:52 PM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> What PoE+ cameras will work with motion, please? I've been using
>>> some Logitech USB cameras for the past half-decade and would like to
>>> upgrade to some IP PoE+ cameras.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your replies.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 10:59:32 +0100
From: Mil?n Pataki <[email protected]>
To: Motion discussion list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion compatible PoE+ cameras?
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And that ipcam has its own proprietary motion detection SW. Check the item
description and the manufacturer's site.
If the features are satisfying and worth the price for you, it could be a
good choice. (I don't have any experience with this manufacturer)
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM MrDave <[email protected]> wrote:
> If the link is correct, that seems to be a very expensive PTZ camera
> which is a different situation. The typical POE camera I think most
> people are using is fixed location and focus. If you are looking for a
> PTZ there is a lot of custom scripting required.
>
> While Motion version 4.2.1 allows for setting up a set of custom scripts
> to execute via the manual tracking type, it is still pretty basic.
> Prior Motion versions only did very specific PTZ models.
>
> To get the PTZ to work (in order to justify the cost of that camera),
> you will need to get from the company the url commands that invoke the
> movement and zoom. Some manufacturers have been reported to refuse to
> release those so you'd have to wireshark the network to see them and
> reverse engineer a script. I also noted that it includes audio which
> Motion does not support. (It is frequently illegal to just record audio
> without you being actively listening)
>
> Personally, I use the fixed focus/location ones from Aliexpress (5MP poe
> is ~$45USD). Perhaps others with a PTZ can comment on their experiences.
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/16/18 11:05 AM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
> > Thank you very much for that excellent reply. Since it supports RTSP,
> > I think I'll take a chance on http://amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4PLZ9M/
> > as it includes the PoE injector, unless anyone sees a
> > motion-contraindication for the item.
> >
> > On 12/15/18 9:19 PM, MrDave wrote:
> >> It is probably a shorter list to indicate which do NOT work. The
> >> cameras that have their own proprietary streaming and subscription
> >> services may not work.
> >>
> >> Look for the streaming protocols the camera supports and find ones
> >> that list RTSP. May also want to do a internet search for the RTSP
> >> connection string for that camera just in case the documentation
> >> provided with the camera does not provide it. (It SHOULD but
> >> occasionally does not). There are 100's if not 1,000's of these
> >> cameras on Amazon and Aliexpress.
> >>
> >> Note that since these cameras usually use H264 for compression of the
> >> stream, the computer running Motion may need to be a more powerful to
> >> decompress and process the images
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 12/15/2018 9:52 PM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
> >>> Greetings,
> >>>
> >>> What PoE+ cameras will work with motion, please? I've been using
> >>> some Logitech USB cameras for the past half-decade and would like to
> >>> upgrade to some IP PoE+ cameras.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your replies.
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> https://motion-project.github.io/
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> >>
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