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Today's Topics:
1. Adapting motion to study insect activity in the jungle
(Yash Sondhi)
2. Re: Newbie (Joshua Moninger)
3. Re: Newbie (Steve G)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:44:38 -0400
From: Yash Sondhi <[email protected]>
To: Motion discussion list <[email protected]>
Subject: [Motion-user] Adapting motion to study insect activity in the
jungle
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Hi,
I ended up using motion to track circadian rhythm (when things fly) for
insects and tested a bunch of settings in the field with a raspberry pi.
The disk images with all the software and associated instructions guides
are present here https://osf.io/8p5kw/. I wrote some simple wrappers for
motion since I felt it maybe easier for the non technical user, I hope it
is useful. I also wanted to ask if there is anyway I can credit this
community other than the GitHub page since I will be writing about the
setup and some of the data we collected in a scientific manuscript.
Cheers
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 17:07 Steve G via Motion-user, <
[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm a newbie with motion. I have not gotten to install it yet. I am coming
> from having used zoneminder for years and gotten fed up with the bugs and
> developers that want to be paid to fix their own mistakes. What I need to
> find is more information about the capabilities of motion and using it on
> Fedora. Where can I get this? Information on sourceforge is not exactly the
> greatest.
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:01:26 +0300
From: Joshua Moninger <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Newbie
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The documentation looks daunting but if you give it a few days to go over it a
few times you'll see it's really not.
You could only add recording path and movie passtrough to the default and maybe
change width/height.
To view recordings is not really up to motion at all. You could autoindex the
recording directory with nginx.
> Thank you very much. I watched a couple of the videos and they gave me a lot
> of information as far as the capabilities. I was looking to have to write my
> own software to do what you're already doing. I prefer not to reinvent the
> wheel. I'm very pleased that you have such good informative videos out there.
>
> It looks very complex which means I may have to write a g u i to handle the
> configuration files for those who don't really know how to work them. It
> looks like I will have a learning curve so I hope you don't mind a few
> questions.
>
> What I do want to find out that is not going to be covered in the videos is
> about installing this on Fedora. And what kinds of things I may have to watch
> out for to make all the various cameras work. If your software works as I
> think it will, I will be replacing multiple zoneminder installations with
> your software. It looks like you have a web browser interface which is
> perfect.
>
> Does your software also have the ability to view recordings from the web
> browser? Stupid question I know but I didn't notice it anywhere. I I'm sure I
> will find more questions when I get a chance to install this in a test
> environment this week.
>
> Sent from TypeApp
>
> On Aug 23, 2021, at 13:23, MrDave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There is of course the guide but it is pretty long.
>>
>> https://motion-project.github.io/motion_guide.html
>>
>> For an overview, you may want to look at some of the intro videos
>> I created at
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZpOjUMnc-uO3qIyZAD_4lg/videos
>>
>> On 8/23/2021 3:07 PM, Steve G via
>> Motion-user wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a newbie with motion. I have not gotten to
>>> install it yet. I am coming from having used zoneminder for
>>> years and gotten fed up with the bugs and developers that want
>>> to be paid to fix their own mistakes. What I need to find is
>>> more information about the capabilities of motion and using it
>>> on Fedora. Where can I get this? Information on sourceforge is
>>> not exactly the greatest.
>>>
>>> Sent from
>>> TypeApp
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:05:56 -0800
From: Steve G <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Newbie
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The documentation is overwhelming and very daunting. So thank you so so much
for doing those videos. The videos allowed me to learn how to set this thing up
and I learned how to make it work in about 2 hours. This looks like a winner
something that I will probably in a few months after making sure everything's
good replace zoneminder installs with. I need to do a little programming work
to make things remotely accessible in other words some add-ons that I will
create myself that you are welcome to distribute if you wish.
?Sent from TypeApp ?
On Aug 23, 2021, 18:53, at 18:53, MrDave <[email protected]> wrote:
>No worries, I have no toes on the mailing list.
>
>I've never used Fedora but I thought it uses RPMs which would mean that
>
>you should be able to go to RPM fusion and get the latest version.? If
>you want to build your own from source, it is pretty simple.? Building
>instructions for various distros (excluding Fedora) is at this link
>along with the instructions.
>
>https://motion-project.github.io/motion_build.html#Preparation_For_Building
>
>So you should be able to just get those same dependencies on Fedora and
>
>then follow the usual autoreconf/ config/make install process.
>
>With respect to viewing recordings via the web interface, as was
>indicated below this isn't built in.? I believe a different application
>
>called "MotionEye" has that functionality.? MotionEye wraps around the
>Motion application and implements various scripts and interfaces to
>make
>Motion more friendly to those that don't work with config files.? It is
>
>in python 2.7 and can be found by searching github.? (For specific
>questions on that interface application, you'll be better off posing
>questions to their issue list since many here do not use it and instead
>
>use Motion directly)
>
>
>MrDave
>
>On 8/23/2021 6:53 PM, Barry Martin wrote:
>>
>> Steve:
>>
>> I an an end-user like yourself and have had minimal issues installing
>
>> Motion on Raspbian -- I know: isn't Fedora but similar.? Most if not
>> all of the issues were because I don't have the technical background
>> being a casual hobbyist and misunderstood a few items.? And I found
>> using Motion directly I had a lot better control and much less
>hiccups
>> than when using a similarly-named utility.
>>
>>
>>> What I do want to find out that is not going to be covered in the
>>> videos is about installing this on Fedora. And what kinds of things
>I
>>> may have to watch out for to make all the various cameras work.
>>
>> The 'big trick' is there is a main configuration file called
>> motion.conf.? Each camera has it's own config file: camera1.conf,
>> camera2.conf, etc.? motion.conf will control Camera1; I find it
>easier
>> to be consistent and always have specific camera configurations in
>> their own file.
>>
>>
>>> It looks like you have a web browser interface which is perfect.
>>
>> It does! Be sure to have each camera have it's own port: 8080, 8081,
>> etc.? You can 'reuse' the port numbers with a different IP address.?
>I
>> also found some of my Raspberry Pi's were outputting an 8081 and
>> others a 8081/1 according to the browser (Firefox).? I also use
>> CCTV-Viewer to put the multiple streams on one monitor.
>>
>>
>>> Does your software also have the ability to view recordings from the
>
>>> web browser? Stupid question I know but I didn't notice it anywhere.
>
>>> I I'm sure I will find more questions when I get a chance to install
>
>>> this in a test environment this week.
>>
>> Motion will livestream - I've used Firefox, Chromium, and CCTV_Viewer
>
>> simultaneously while testing.? At the same time motion-triggered
>> videos are sent to my storage server in the basement.? The latter is
>> not able to be live-viewed, of course, but are available generally in
>
>> less than a minute.
>>
>> Hope that helps and I didn't accidentally step on any of the
>> developers' toes replying.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
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