On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:35:49 -0700, Michael Hendrickson <mlhendrick...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people in here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from sharing exact owl locations and some took that requst and think iam asking not to share all bird sightings,locations and information. lol did i say all that? now michelle posted a personal reply to all and iam sure paul kammen is not to far in sharing my replies i made to him! when i said i lost in people or in this case birders this is what i mean. so u guys can forget about my request and go ahead and share everything relating to birds even your owl locations. i do not need or care about this listserve..i do not want any part of it. because folks like michelle and paul and few others just dont get it. good birding for the last time on this idiotic listserv. > Well, I do care about this list and I like it. I'm simply making a counterpoint, not making any shots, just stating my two cents, and with all due respect, I disagree with not posting about owls or birds, and about baiting. As I said, I'm an avid photographer and birder. I support MOU and enjoy finding and visiting birding spots. I'm quite fond of owls, and I think it's wonderful if someone posts where an owl can be found such as in a county or state park, or along a road. As far as baiting, I'm not an expert, but as I said I don't carry around mice with me, my photo gear is enough, but I don't find baiting objectionable - if the DNR has not made a law against it or issued guidelines on it (and if they have please show me) then as far as I'm concerned it's not an issue. I do have a beef with people like that genius who harmed the pelicans on his land who is now facing time, and do take issue with those who want to shoot up Lake Waconia because Commorants are apparently an issue. I imagine those could be other threads as well. I think we can agree to disagree on this one - I'm a bit surprised at how riled up some have gotten. MOU gives me great info on birds in general, but also allows me to find them. I'm a busy person, and bird as a hobby - I'm quite willing to hop in my car on my day off and drive 2 to 3 hours, but would rather not go on a wild goose chase. Of course I often bird in regular areas too like Old Cedar Ave., MN Valley, Sherburne Refuge, etc. If someone on here says they saw an owl within an hour or two of the cities, I'd hop in my car, try to find it, and if I did set up my tripod and camera and try to get some nice photos. Mike, I mean you no disrespect and I don't think you posted because you are trying to keep spots secret to earn a few extra bucks to guide people, but care about owls. I have also been to your site and saw your maps. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't think an MOU post as I said before is like posting something on Drudge Report for millions to read, and think most would say "hey, an owl, what a great opportunity to see a beautiful bird and take a picture" not go and harm the bird or go onto private property unwelcomed. As far as sharing personal e-mails, I'm not quite sure what you mean - I'm just replying to the posts on the list. This has been a long thread, and hopefully we can get back to better posts on locations and migrants. Going to Bass Ponds tomorrow afternoon if anyone has any recent updates. Regards, Fr. Paul ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
