All: I have trouble reading the statute that way. Premises can include land of any sort. But I can't find the part of the statute that says that "posting" can substitute for an actual demand by the owner to leave a plot of land--as opposed to a structure (tho' that would make sense). Of course birders should honor the wishes of the land owner. Warren
-----Original Message----- From: Minnesota Birds <MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU> On Behalf Of Loren Albin Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 5:13 PM To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Subject: Re: [mou-net] Lewis's Woodpecker? I disagree with the opinion that trespass cannot be enforced on non-agricultural property unless posted. According to Minnesota Statute 609.605, Subdivision 1: (b) A person is guilty of a misdemeanor if the person intentionally: . . . (3) trespasses on the premises of another and, without claim of right, refuses to depart from the premises on demand of the lawful possessor; https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.605 Posting can eliminate the need to prove intent, but the statute is clear that a person can be charged with a misdemeanor for trespassing, regardless of whether or not the property is posted. Loren Albin, Maplewood > On Feb 19, 2021, at 2:11 PM, Bon <bceliaso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > See link below. Based on page 9 and following of this document, I believe > the statement “in MN all property is private unless posted public” applies > only to “agricultural” land. To enforce no trespass on other types of > private property, the land needs to be posted. > > https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/hunting/full_regs.pdf?updated=20201229&view=fit&pagemode=bookmarks. > dnr.state.mn.us > > Despite the details of the law, to maintain good relationships between > birders and landowners, birders should always make sure they are welcome > before entering private property. > > Bonita Eliason, Woodbury > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 19, 2021, at 10:23 AM, birdnir...@gmail.com wrote: >> And as property owners we’ve had troubles with this. In December we had a >> stranger show up to see a late bird and in spite of signs no trespassing and >> quarantine because we are extremely vulnerable he still came 30 miles spent >> an hour in our farmyard right outside the house and never called the posted >> phone numbers for permission to be here. Created a very dangerous situation >> for us. Just for the sake of a tick for his year list. >> >> Audubon defers to ABA code of ethics for birding responsibly. Tenet 3 is >> ALWAYS get permission to enter private property. And in MN all property is >> private unless posted public. >> >> Troubles we had at a FL home last month were even worse placing the security >> of that home and my elderly Mom at risk. >> >> So yes, please, Golden Rule. >> >> Charlene Nelson >> Elbow Lake farm still in quarantine >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Frank Berdan <fberda...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Charley, yup, there are many interested birders. And yes this >> homeowner has set prudent restrictions. >> >> In my 40+ years of birding it's been too often true that a very small >> number of birders, eager for looks and photos, disregard property >> rights, privacy, and common decency by barging into yards, playing >> tapes loudly, and even damaging landscaping. >> >> This occasional sort of selfish, loutish behavior has even resulted >> in closure of otherwise public sites to birding, like certain Metro >> sewage ponds, pre-9/11. >> >> Sad, but true. >> >> We should behave honorably and practice the Golden Rule. The ABA's >> rules of ethics needed to have been written. MOU urges us to bird >> responsibly. >> >> Good burding, >> >> Frank Berdan >> St Paul >> >> >>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021, 11:20 PM Charles Greenman <c_green...@msn.com> wrote: >>> >>> This is a strange message. Aren’t there many who would want to know >>> the location of. Lewis’s Woodpecker? Is the location restricted by >>> the homeowner? Charlie Greenman >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Rick Gibson <rjoegib...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I am, once again, late to the party. 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