Personal discussion such as this should be taken off line please. MOU-Moderator.
Terry Brashear Hennepin County, MN http://www.naturepixels.com birdnird AT yahoo.com --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Chuck Cole <[email protected]> wrote: From: Chuck Cole <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mou-net] FW: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 12:43 PM The studies done by orgs in FL were not restricted to sites in FL. I was being brief in my citation. Bird behavior is not limited to states. They are migratory, as you may discover. Windmills and other towers are located in other places than SW MN. You should actually look up actual studies, as I did when previously involved effects of towers and other "light pollution". Your opinions seem unfounded. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Eric Harrold [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:38 PM To: [email protected]; Chuck Cole Subject: Re: [mou-net] FW: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines Chuck, Simply put, Florida is not southwest Minnesota...for a variety of reasons. I do not find the comparison valid. Much more concentrated movement through Florida. Eric Harrold --- On Wed, 6/15/11, Chuck Cole <[email protected]> wrote: From: Chuck Cole <[email protected]> Subject: [mou-net] FW: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 11:04 AM -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Cole [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 2:45 PM To: Eric Harrold Subject: RE: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines Studies done in Florida by the FL Conservation Society and Audubon, etc, showed that ANY towers are hazards to migratory birds.... lighted towers especially. Lights are required aircraft warnings on power towers, airport towers, windmills, radio and TV towers, tall buildings, and so on. The type of tower makes little difference. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Eric > Harrold > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines > > > Perhaps the most unfortunate aspect of wind energy is the notion that we (society) have to tailor everything to the > corporate model. In other words, we could utilize residential scale turbines that pose a much lesser risk to migrating > birds. But the turbines in the Midwest pose little threat anyway when placed in big rowcrop ag fields where there is > little concentrated bird movement. The Appalachian region and similar mountainous places are another story... > > Eric Harrold > > --- On Mon, 6/13/11, linda whyte <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: linda whyte <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Golden Eagles harmed by wind turbines > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:37 PM > > > It is indeed, unfortunate. There seems to be no escaping the > conclusion that all forms of energy production come at some kind of > price. We need to minimize the "side-effects" or collateral damages of > all of them---and start by examining our own energy consumption. > Linda Whyte > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jim Ryan <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is most unfortunate: > > > > http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=20764&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > > > Jim Ryan > > Saint Paul's Westside > > ---- > > One of the first conditions of happiness is that the link between Man and > > Nature shall not be broken. -* Leo Tolstoy* > > > > A well governed appetite is the greater part of liberty. - *Lucius Annaeus > > Seneca* > > ---- > > > > ---- > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
