Hi,
While I don't know much about GTK I believe that porting to GTK 2 would
take a significant amount of time. Since there appears to be noone taking
care of the project full time it's unlikely we'll get a working version
soon. So I would say that dumping it now and then recreating it if and
when we have a working binding to gtk2 would be a good idea.
/pavel
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:54:02 +0100, Kevin Glynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi Mozart lovers,
I am writing about the future of the Mozart GTK binding.
The following is just my understanding of the situation, I know very
little about GTK or this binding so please correct me where I am wrong
so that we have all the information to make a good decision.
Mozart GTK is a native library that links Mozart apps to the GTK+ 1
library. It was originally developed for the purposes of Alice when
they were using Mozart as their virtual machine.
GTK has moved on and GTK 1 has been mothballed for a long time, GTK is
now at (incompatible) version 2.
GTK 1 libraries are being removed from Debian, and so the mozart-gtk
Debian package will be removed too, either by my request, or by
default if I do nothing.
mozart-gtk has an 'interesting' build process. It includes a C header
file parser, and it generates the bindings to Oz automatically from
the installed GTK header files. This is neat technology, but it is
also very fragile, the parser is sufficient for a subset of C, but as
the C header files evolve this parser often breaks and has to be fixed
up. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=419692 for
the latest instance of this.
I also note that the documentation for mozart-gtk is missing:
http://www.mozart-oz.org/documentation/add-ons/
and nonone seems to have noticed.
So, can anyone step up and fix mozart-gtk? Can anyone port it to GTK
2? Can anyone rescue an improve the technology to automatically create
native functors from C header files?
Otherwise, I will ask for mozart-gtk's removal from Debian unstable
(and thus the next Debian / Ubuntu release) in a week's time.
I am also doubtful that it will be possible to release it as part of
Mozart's next release (but that is not my call).
Thanks for any comments, advice, help.
Kevin
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