Dear Stewart, On 8 Jun 2012, at 04:01, stewart mackenzie wrote: > having a library to include then remove is just another form of awkward ?
Not a principle problem, but one of the reasons why I forgot about this debugging feature :) > Ides have a debug mode, some people use this test driven approach, its a > clean slate why not think of the ideal way to debug? I certainly agree that debuggers in general as we know them could be greatly improved. For a very interesting proposal for Oz programmers, see http://wolfgangmeyer.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/debuggers-are-needlessly-tedious-to-use.html . Wolfgang presents there a debugger that shows some similarity to the debugging approach Bret Victor presented in his talk, a few years later (you recently shared the link http://vimeo.com/36579366). An omplementation for Wolfgang's debugger and other nice developer tools at http://code.google.com/p/oz-code/, see in particular Wolfgang's ozfind, http://ozfind.jottit.com/ > We are at the point where the code is coming alone beautifully under > Sébastien's hard work. I merely worry that this feature request is above and > beyond his call for duty. In other words this is an itch that needs > scratching, (we all have) though is it that itchy that you or Raoul would be > interested in implementing it yourself? Great news, and I very much appreciate your concern about the debugging facilities of Mozart 2! I can confirm from my experience that debugging concurrent programs can be very challenging and that every helpful tool is highly appreciated here. Unfortunately, I am unable to contribute to the Mozart 2 development at this point for 2 reasons: I do not "speak" C++ (nor Scala), and my really heavy workload for my job hardly gives me any time for my own research :( (I am at a teaching and not research-focused university, but I am also required to publish regularly.) I am very sorry. Best wishes, Torsten -- Dr Torsten Anders Course Leader, Music Technology University of Bedfordshire Park Square, Room A315 http://www.torsten-anders.de _________________________________________________________________________________ mozart-users mailing list [email protected] http://www.mozart-oz.org/mailman/listinfo/mozart-users
