JTK wrote:
> > Yeah, um, it's still just as stupid and wrong.
> No it's not Jesus.  You should know that.

Nothing is impossible.

> > No one knows where the future
> > will come from.
> But we all know where it won't come from, at least those of us who don't
> have their religious blinders on.

I'm not partaking in the NS vs. MS Holy War. I'm defending Mozilla as a good
piece of software that has a real chance at success. You disagree. That's ok,
I've no burning need to convert you.

> It didn't come from OS/2, it didn't
> come from Java, it sure as hell won't come from Mozilla.

Java never had a chance due to Sun's tight fisted control. They wanted to make
more money that Java was capable of delivering. OS/2 was just WAY under marketed
for far too long. By the time warp came out, it was too late. They really needed
to work on Win32 support too. They had their chance, and instead let OS/2 wither
on the vine, just like Java.
 
> > Did anyone really anticipate Netscape would become as big as
> > they became?
> How could they have?  Nobody even knew about them until they had their
> 15 minutes.

I'd hardly call it 15 minutes. But you still prove my point. Big change can come
from the unknown.

> > Did anyone really think MS could topple them?
> Did anyone think *otherwise*?!?!

Yes. Millions of people. f course, it was also not anticipated that NS would
make so many stupid blunders along the way. I think Jim Barksdale was the first
and biggest mistake.

> > Did anyone really
> > think that Bill Gates would make goo on his promise of IE being created and
> > maintained for every platform Netscape supported?
> Oh, I was pretty sure from the start he'd make goo out of that promise
> ;-).

Er, yeah, I guess that typo worked out better than I thought. :)

His promise reminds me of an old saying: Wish in one hand, poop in the other,
see which one fills up first. I think we saw which hand MS filled first. :)

> > Did anyone REALLY think AOL would wind up going from one of a bunch of
> > cheesy online services to the world leading ISP and merge with one of the
> > world's biggest media companies?
> I'm sure Mr. Case did.

Well, Steve Case also thinks he's the Second Coming.

> > And do you REALLY think that when push comes to shove, AOL/TW WON'T take
> > advantage of Netscape's products?
> They'd certainly try to if they had the option, if for no other reason
> than to make the AOL "experience" even worse than it already is.  They
> don't have that option today.  They never will at the rate Mathuzilla is
> going.

This is just not true on many levels. Not only WOULD AOL, but THEY ARE. The
Gateway TouchPad box is Linux/Mozilla based, as is the Linux Client. And not too
deep within the bowels of AOL R&D is a Win32 client based on Mozilla that could
launch this fall if need be.

> > We'll take it slow for you. Man 1 is king. Man two throws man 1 out of the
> > throne, takes it, and is now the king. Now man 2 thinks he'll always be
> > king, forgetting that he can be unseated just as easily as his predecessor.
> Who's Man 1 now?

Irrelevant, this is an analogy.

> At any rate, you've got an implicit assumtion in there
> that Man 2 is just as inept as Man 1 when it comes to being king.

Also irrelevant. Man 1 was king, and thus believed to be omnipotent. Man 2
believes that as king he'd be omnipotent. No one and no thing is omnipotent.
 
> > Then you're already wrong. Linux has far greater penetration on the desktop
> > market than 0.56% and laptops greater than 0.00000000000001%. But of course,
> > you knew that. Right?
> Hey, you're the one that's the Son of God.  I only know what the
> oh-so-"Open" Maozilla project allows me to know.

Mozilla nor Netscape control any media outlets. Go read a trade website and look
for some stats. You'll see your numbers are off.

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