Henri Sivonen wrote:
> In article <9obmhv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Garth Wallace"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Gus wrote:
> [...]
> > > Perhaps I need to clarify:
> > > The document
> > > http://css.nu/temp/valid-test1.html
> > > is written in HTML 4.01 Strict and validates.
> > >
> > > Problem #1:
> > > It will not display with Mozilla due to SGML Shorttag usage, although
> > > it is legal and validates (only Opera displays something, although
> > > not properly).
> >
> > Does it validate with the W3C's HTML validator,
>
> Yes.
>
> > or with an SGML validator using the HTML 4.01 doctype?
>
> The W3C validator uses an SGML parser.
>
> > HTML doesn't have some SGML features--
>
> Real-life implementations of (other than Emacs-W3) HTML don't support
> SHORTTAG. It is in the spec, though.
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/sgmldecl.html
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/empty.html
>
> > the SGML spec isn't entirely normative for HTML.
>
> According to the spec, it is. In real life, it isn't treated that way.
> Also, some SGML folks don't like the normative reference.
>
> > AIUI, Mozilla's "view source" is generated from the DOM tree.
>
> Which is a Bad Thing.
>
Many Bugs filed. 55583 57724 are two of them.
1 year to date and not yet resolved.
Gus
>
> > HTML has never supported the </> notation to my knowledge.
> > Same with that <P/This page validates as/<P> thing (are you
> > missing a > there?)
>
> Check out
> http://www.hut.fi/~hsivonen/test/minimal-valid.html
> http://www.hut.fi/~hsivonen/test/minimization.html
> with the validator, Emacs-W3 and Mozilla.
>
> --
> Henri Sivonen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.clinet.fi/~henris/
