Jon Krivitzky wrote: > > I wanted a > quick way to see [snip] the Javascript Object version, which doesn't > seem to offer any help at all in the DOM Inspector.
It is possible to inspect the JS DOM objects using the Inspector, it's just not immediately obvious. Look at the two top panes - the Document pane on the left and the Object pane of the right. To the immediate left of the titles of those panes (which always start with "Document - ..." and "Object - ..." there are little drop-down menu anchors. Clicking on them and selecting "Javascript Object" from the drop down menu will display the "document" variable in the Document pane and the currently selected element's DOM object in the Object pane. Also, in the Inspector, do a lot of right-clicking, there's a lot of useful functionality hidden in context menus. > As for the debugger, if you can't add a watch an object and expand its > properties, what good is the debugger at all? Well, I've never had a real need to watch an object, and I generally only do OO programming (JS being the usual exception), so I can't do much but shrug here. Breakpoints, exception tracing and being able to control execution are what I mainly use Venkman for, and that's mostly what it does. Getting values of properties out of it can be a bit random, but hey, you've got the Venkman eval command and dump(), which work well enough for me. > I feel like I'm missing some nugget of excellence hidden in these > products, but I simply can't find any useful bits at all. Maybe it's just the fact that Venkman has only been in for the last two releases (IIRC) and the Inspector has only been in for one. They're both pretty new and may not be a high priority for those who are maintaining them if the functionality is alreay sufficient. But hey, the source is there, there's no reason why you couldn't help inprove it. Mike. -- Mike Gratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Every motive escalate." Blatant self-promotion: <http://web.vee.net/>